Draft (almost raw) minutes for SCA Policy call of 2007-02-04

["Michael Rowley" <mrowley@bea.com>]

 

Resolution summary:

- Issues 44 and 46 opened

- Issue 45 rejected as duplicate of 23 and 27

 

 

Details:

 

Dave Booz: SCA Policy Telecon

Dave Booz: Monday 4 Feb, 2008, 12-1 ET

Dave Booz: Telecon numbers

DIAL-IN NUMBERS & PASSCODES:

USA Toll Free Number: 877-347-0176

USA Toll Number: +1-719-466-2386

UK  Toll Free Number 0 808 101 0915

PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 427842

Dave Booz: other callin info available in the agenda

Sanjay: Agenda: 1. Roll call

 

Fred Carter            AmberPoint    

Michael Rowley         BEA Systems, Inc.     

Tom Rutt               Fujitsu Limited*      

Eric Wells             Hitachi, Ltd.

Michael Beisiegel      IBM    

David Booz             IBM    

Mike Edwards           IBM    

Meeraj Kunnumpurath    Individual    

Martin Chapman         Oracle Corporation    

Anish Karmarkar        Oracle Corporation    

Rich Levinson         Oracle Corporation    

Ashok Malhotra         Oracle Corporation    

Vladislav Bezrukov     SAP AG*       

Sanjay Patil           SAP AG*       

Fabian Ritzmann        Sun Microsystems      

Tai-Hsing Cha         TIBCO Software Inc.   

Pundalik Kudapkar      TIBCO Software Inc.   

 

 

2. Appointment of minute taker  Michael Rowley

 

3. Agenda bashing

 

4. Vote to accept minutes from previous meeting

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200801/msg00049.html

Adjustments needed:

a. There is an action missing from item 8 for Ashok to come back with a revised proposal based on the tentative agreements laid out in the minutes.

b. Resolution 3 should refer to Issue 40.

 

5. ACTION ITEMS - Chairs scrubbed past minutes

a. 20071126-01: Editors produce Committee Draft - in progress

b. 20071210-01: Chairs to contribute Transaction spec errata

c. 20071210-02: Chairs to contribute Open transaction issues

d. 20071210-05: Issue 38 Proposal prepared by Mike E

DONE. Duplicate of action 20071126-02, completed Jan 14,2008 (see minutes).

e. 20080107-01: Fold transaction spec into policy spec as appendix

f. 20080124-01: Ashok to raise a new issue to provide a mechanism to provide configuration parameters for Policy Sets

DONE: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-46.

g. 20080124-02: Ashok to prepare proper XSD version of the proposal for Issue 24

DONE: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200801/msg00050.html

h. 20080124-03: Mike Edwards to log an issue on the subject of interaction intents vs implementation intents.

DONE: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-44

i. 20080124-04: Mike Edwards to create a formal issue and proposal based on the discussion of Message and Operation level intents

DONE. http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-45

j. 20080124-05: Ashok to create revised proposal for ISSUE 15  External Policy Attachment

 

6. New Issues:

a. Issue 46: Provide a mechanism to provide configuration parameters for Policy Sets

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-46

b. Issue 44: Distinguish interaction intents from implementation intents.

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-44

c. Issue 45: Provide a better mechanism of attaching Intents and Policy Sets to Operations and Messages

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-45

DUP of issues 23 and/or 27?

 

7. Issues

a. ISSUE 24: More direct, structural qualifier definition

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200801/msg00050.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200801/msg00052.html

b. ISSUE 37: location of ws-policy.xsd is incorrect.

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-37

c. ISSUE 15: External Attachment of Policy

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-15

d. ISSUE 26: Security implementation policy should be validateable by schema

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-26

e. Issue 42: Infoset for policySet/@appliesTo

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200712/msg00038.html

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-42

f. Issue 38: Overrides in the SCA implementation hierarchy

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200801/msg00019.html

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-38

g. Issue 43: Use of intents from component type in policySet algorithm

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-43

 

8. AOB

 

9. Any additions to the roll?

anonymous2 morphed into anish

Meeraj Kunnumpurath: hi, can I record my attendance, pls?

Ashok: I recorded you Meeraj

Michael Rowley: I'll scribe.

Michael Rowley: Roll taken, quorum achieved.

anonymous morphed into michael beisiegel

Michael Rowley: Two proposed modifications to the minutes, as recorded in the agenda.

Vladislav Bezrukov1 morphed into Vladislav Bezrukov

Michael Rowley: "a. There is an action missing from item 8 for Ashok to come back with a revised proposal based on the tentative agreements laid out in the minutes."

Michael Rowley: "b. Resolution 3 should refer to Issue 40."

Michael Rowley: Ashok requests help on (a) in describing what the logical virtual infoset for the domain would look like.

Michael Rowley: Michael Rowley volunteers to help.

Michael Rowley: Rowley moves that we accepts the minutes with the proposed modifications, as noted above.

Michael Rowley: Mike E seconds.  No objections.

Michael Rowley: Mike E will send revised minutes.

Michael Rowley: Topic: Action Items

Michael Rowley: In general, the AIs that are done are listed as DONE in the agenda.  None of the rest are done.

Michael Rowley: New Issue 46, described by Ashok.

Michael Rowley: Ashok noted that, although the proposal mentions changing both policySet and requires (intents) to child elements, he would be OK with only changing policySets.

Michael Rowley: Sanjay moves to open the issue.

Michael Rowley: Vladislov seconds.

Michael Rowley: No objection.

Michael Rowley: Resolved: Issue 46 open.

Michael Rowley: New Issue 44 described by Mike E.

Sanjay: we should accept the issue and move n

Michael Rowley: Discussion of whether the description of the problem in the issue is accurate.

Michael Rowley: Sanjay moves that we open it.

Michael Rowley: Mike E seconds.  No objection.

Michael Rowley: Resolved: Issue 44 open

Michael Rowley: New Issue 45 described by Mike E.

Sanjay: hmm ... we are now opening new issues to close old issues

Michael Rowley: Dave Booz notes that this new issue duplicates issue 23 and 27.

Michael Rowley: Michael Rowley suggests that Mike E posts his proposal to the list as a resolution to issues 23 and 27.

Michael Rowley: Dave Booz concurs

Michael Rowley: Mike E moves that we close 45 as rejected as duplicate of 23 & 27

Michael Rowley: Michael Rowley seconds.

Michael Rowley: no objections

Michael Rowley: Resolved: Issue 45 rejected as duplicate of 23 and 27

Michael Rowley: Action Item for Ashok: rewording section that defines intents

Michael Rowley: Action Item for Mike E: update the proposal for issue 37, the current proposal does not have the correct URL.

Michael Rowley: Topic: Issue 26

anish there is someone objecting in the background

Mike Edwards: finally I got in

Michael Rowley: Discussion of using XACML for authorization, rather than fixing up the little authorization language defined by the spec.

Michael Rowley: Meeting adjourned