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Subject: Re: [smartgrid-discuss] Passive homes - Maybe we won't have to worry about pricing!



David, I feel your pain.  Yup, every time that big green and white propane truck trundles up the road....I feel that pain!
 
Seriously, 6 or 7 years ago when we were designing the house we live in, we researched alternative building methods such as rammed earth and straw bail construction.  We hit a brick wall, so to speak, with the county: no way they could approve anything for which they did not have codes to apply, trained inspectors to inspect, and so on.   The problem is compounded when considering the cost of educating civil engineers, contractors and trades people (if you can find some who are even interested).  Ultimately we found the cost to be way, way out of our price range even, so all the arguments about long term pay back became irrelevant. 
 
This is an important part of the economic models: we have to consider what people can afford up front vs. what time frame they can realize benefit. To say that spending a million bucks now will save 10 million in 30 years sounds good, but doesn't help the guy who can't come up with the million bucks.
 
I'd be interested if anyone has some objective economic analysis on these alternate construction methods.  There are lots of claims kicking around, but so far when I've dug into the math, it doesn't work out as claimed.  There are a lot of variables, such as regional climate, labor costs, etc. 
 
Thoughts? 
 
-B
 
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Subject: [smartgrid-discuss] Passive homes - Maybe we won't have to worry about pricing!

This just in:
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/27/world/europe/27house.html?_r=2&hp

I got home this evening to find my $1,000 gas delivery bill on the door step - so now I'm thinking - hmmmm - how much to upgrade my home to a passive house?!?
 
Thanks, DW
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