Re: [ubl-dev] Duplicate Definition of Documentation Parameters

["Stephen Green" <stephen_green@seventhproject.co.uk>]

Kathleen

I believe it might be that you are trying
to get VS to create a data view, which
it can't do with UBL since UBL has
globally defined (reused) types. As long
as you don't ask VS to display or process
the schemas/instances as database schemas
or 'datasets' but just display the schemas
and instances as raw XML or in XML
(not data) graphical form I think it should
be fine.

All the best

Stephen Green


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Morgan Kathleen C" <Kathleen.C.Morgan@irs.gov>
To: "'Chin Chee-Kai'" <cheekai@softml.net>
Cc: <ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: [ubl-dev] Duplicate Definition of Documentation Parameters


> I am actually using an unmodified version of the UBL schemas in the xsdrt
> directory.  I have two tools - XMYSpy and Visual Studio.  The XMLSpy seems
> to validate all the schemas with no errors.  But, my Visual Studio tool,
> gives a long list of "Global element has already been defined" errors in
the
> CommonAggregateComponents schema - but no errors appear in the maindoc
> schemas.
>
> I am actually writing custom schemas and trying to replicate the
> structure/syntax of the UBL schemas.  I started getting these errors on my
> custom schemas and then attempted to validate the UBL schemas to narrow
down
> the error to one that I caused or one that I replicated.
>
> The problem is that we are tyring to implement webMethods as our broker.
> That tool seems to import the main schema as well as all of the imported
> schema files.  This same type of error appears within webMethods when it
> hits the CAC schema.  When we played around with webMethods, the only fix
we
> came up with was to remove the documentation - and that resolved the
> problem.
>
> I was interested in finding out if anyone knew if this was truly a toolset
> problem or some sort of problem that I could correct from within the
> schemas.  Since we wrote the schemas in XMLSpy, we never hit this problem
> and I'm afraid of having to rewrite a bunch of stuff.  I'm thinking that
> since XML Spy seems to be ok, that it is a toolset problem - but I just
> wans't sure.
>
> Kathleen C. Morgan
> PRIME - IRS EDMO
> (301) 731-6768
> kathleen.c.morgan@irs.gov / kmorgan24@csc.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chin Chee-Kai [mailto:cheekai@softml.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:29 PM
> To: Morgan Kathleen C
> Cc: 'ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] Duplicate Definition of Documentation Parameters
>
>
> I vaguely remember this being brought up sometime back about the duplicate
> definitions here on ubl-dev, perhaps by XMLSpy?  Outcome of some further
> discussion was a quick-fix to just use the set of equivalent schemas which
> do not contain the CoreComponentParameters. Those are found in directory
> "xsdrt" (stands for XSD Run-Time).
>
> Setting the "Definition" component to minOccurs=0  seems to be an
> independent solution from the duplicate definition issue.  The
"Definition"
> component appears to be required by NDR to be 1..1 actually.
>
> Duplicate definitions are benign in most cases if the schema definitions
> imported or included multiple times are exactly the same.  However,
> if such imported or included schema has structurally-modifying xsd
> commands, such as "xsd:redefine", then the importing order may be
affected,
> usually with more serious errors involved (syntactically or, worse, during
> run-time).  As such, a duplicate-definition warning indicating such
> potential is a good sign to let us know of such potential issues and set
> straight the import sequence and/or remove duplicate
> imports.    Hopefully, UBL2.0's xsdrt will be really a run-time version,
> rather than a  run-time-cum-avoid-warning  set of schemas.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Chin Chee-Kai
> SoftML
> Tel: +65-6820-2979
> Fax: +65-6743-7875
> Email: cheekai@SoftML.Net
> http://SoftML.Net/
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Morgan Kathleen C wrote:
>
> >>I am trying to load and validate the .xsd files for UBL 1.0 - however,
> >>I get numerous duplicate definition (global element already defined
> >>and complex type already defined) when I attempt to validate the UBL
> >>schemas in Visual Studio.  The errors are linking back to
> >>CoreComponentsParameters.  I made sure that I have the "Definition"
> >>component minOccurs=0.  But, I still get the errors.
> >>
> >>I noticed in the UBL 1.0 schemas, the ccts documentation parameters
> >>are used in numerous places -but in the UBL 2.0 schemas (xsdrt.zip)
> >>that were circulated, the ccts tags are no longer there.  Was that to
> >>avoid the error?
> >>
> >>Any help would be appreciated - I am trying to implement UBL-design
> >>guidance on our agency schemas and I get the same set of duplicate
> >>definition errors and can't load our schemas directly in webMethods
> >>without commenting out the import statements.
> >>
> >>Thank you,
> >>Kathleen C. Morgan
> >>
> >>
>