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Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] Protocol/framework plus tools/services forcollaboration?
Hi again Adrian Is there a single prefered way to hook something like an implementation guide written in OASIS (future) TAG language into something like an ontology? This would be a handy association to say the least - for describing formally a set of customisations (say described with OASIS CAM), profiles (say ebXML CPPA templates), business process definitions (say with ebXML ebBP), and business rules (say with TAG) and how they all relate to eachother, perhaps how to impose on them a particular context or even an individual trading partnership. I guess there's more to it than that but it seems like an ontology of some kind could round it all off nicely :-) And for big organisations could help their apps to 'understand' how to deal with the little guys. I assume the little guys might just be content to be using something like an 'off-the-shelf' implementation guide / framework / protocol / whatever like I'm trying to create. All the best Stephen Green ------------------------------------------------------------ Stephen Green Senior IT Officer Bristol City Council Room G34, Romney House Romney Avenue Bristol BS99 3HB Tel: 0117 922 3794 Fax: 0117 922 4877 Email: stephen_green@bristol.gov.uk >>> "Stephen Green" <stephengreenubl@gmail.com> 15/05/07 17:13 >>> Hi Adrian Yes, very interesting as another aspect of what's needed. Along the business logic lines I just joined the OASIS Test Assertions Guidelines TC (TAG TC, not to be confused with W3C's TAG of course) to see if what is designed to allow OASIS TCs (and other working groups in other organisations etc) to formulate testable aspects of their specifications as sets of test assertions - to see if the same could also be used for writing profiles which maybe could be used for grouping sets of business rules too into guides (a bit like implementation guides in EDI perhaps). This would be perhaps useful in the background of a framework. I think I still need the framework though or how would various B2B participants be able to easily plug in to each other (like they do with phones faxes and email and even perhaps with EDI)? Maybe framework plus guide is needed and maybe that just then needs to be reporduced perhaps with a choice of software and services to support it all - an extended or even 'extensible' marketplace if you like :-) Call it XMarketplace?! :-) Ugh! much too many X's! Many thanks All the best Stephen Green On 15/05/07, Adrian Walker <adriandwalker@gmail.com> wrote: > Stephen -- > > The system online at the site below may be of interest, at least as > background. > > Shared use is free. > > Hope this helps. > > -- > Adrian > > Internet Business Logic (R) > A Wiki for Executable Open Vocabulary English > Online at www.reengineeringllc.com Shared use is free > > Adrian Walker > Reengineering > > > On 5/15/07, Stephen Green <stephengreenubl@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Folks > > > > I'm thinking about whether to try support for multiple options > > for a possible collaboration framework for e-business using my > > XForms for data input. I remember the Danish telcoms/Gov > > IT had an alternative to ebXML using WS-* - could someone > > please remind me what it was? I'd be grateful. I seem to > > remember it was called something like 'RASP-profile'. Is > > that the name for the overarching framework or just one > > component? > > > > Furthermore, could someone please point me at any products > > which support it? I'm really after something low-cost (apart from > > support which I guess is going to be costly whatever the option) > > and wondered if there are any opensource options or the like. > > > > If it proves too costly compared to ebXML I'll probably give up > > ideas of using anything other than ebXML (for now at least). > > I guess the latter too might be too expensive to offer at low > > cost (or free) to end-users but maybe not. Also, is ebXML Reg > > cost effective for providing a low cost solution to end-users? > > Any thoughts? > > > > Do any ISPs or VANs yet provide any services along these > > lines, does anyone know? Something I could offer to small > > business customers who'd like a solution for using UBL but > > not having to sign up to anything like a big expensive market- > > place or the like? Ideally something fairly 'open' in the sense > > that you don't have to have both trading parties using the same > > product/service (though obviously the same standards/technologies > > of course). If I can't provide I might at least be able to suggest > > it with a link or two. > > > > Many thanks > > > > All the best > > > > -- > > Stephen Green > > > > Partner > > SystML, http://www.systml.co.uk > > Tel: +44 (0) 117 9541606 > > > > http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+22:37 > .. and voice > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > ubl-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > ubl-dev-help@lists.oasis-open.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: ubl-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: ubl-dev-help@lists.oasis-open.org ______________________________________________________________________ Please note the new simpler name for our website: http://www.bristol.gov.uk Our email addresses have also changed - visit http://www.bristol.gov.uk/bigchange for further details. 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