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Subject: Minutes for 2006-02-09 HISC teleconferences
At 2006-02-08 08:17 -0500, I wrote:
>14H30 - 16H30 UTC THURSDAY 9 FEBRUARY 2006
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The meeting convened at 14:30UTC.
In attendance:
G. Ken Holman
Bryan Rasmussen
Zarella Rendon
Peter Borrensen
> - review of UBL 2.0 preliminary outline for UBL 2.0 support
> materials as described in the Manhattan minutes:
>
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200602/msg00005.html
>
> - from that summary I glean the following deliverables related to HISC
>in the Support Package:
>
> Output formatting specifications (may not include all doctypes)
> Owners: HISC (GHK and ZR, possible DK consultant)
> Timeline: 8 doc types, end of Feb; cutoff end of May
> Dependency: mid-April cutoff for all layouts;
> sample instances from SBS now; examples from DK assumed
> by mid-March
> Stylesheets at same time as completion of formatting specs
> Input mapping and XForms
> Owner: BR
> Timeline: don't know; will start right away;
> cutoff end of may
Action: ZR to post results from Ottawa
BR to mimic the output specification by creating shell input
specifications
PB to review output specifications and propose which of the
remaining 2.0 document types can be added though his help and in what priority
> - other related items in the support package (but not the
> responsibility of HISC as a committee, but the responsibility of
> HISC members outside of the committee)
>
> Sample implementations of output formatting specifications (GKH)
> Sample implementations of input mappings and XForms (BR)
Action: BR to post discussion on ideas for workflow and disposition
of form entry, what would people like to see happen with a UBL
instance that has been created by a form (e.g. file save, email, db load, etc.)
> - an item I would like to add to the support package is the list
> of known implementations of the output and input specifications so
> that people who obtain the package will see where implementations
> other than the included samples can be found. Personally, I'm
> reluctant to include the samples as they are only a snapshot of a
> couple of implementations, so the pointers could be framed in prose
> that indicates "the latest implementations can be found..." as well
> as point to alternative implementations. One thing that never
> happened with UBL 1.0 is a dynamic web page on the OASIS site that
> can be updated by HISC with the list of known implementations that
> would, hopefully, entice other implementers to make their
> implementations known (Zarella, would your new secretary
> responsibilities give you this action of considering how we would
> do this effectively?)
Agreed that we will include sample implementations in the HISC support package.
BR: What about support of XSLT 2.0? Should we restrict to 1.0?
GKH: Really only one or two implementations of 2.0 available.
BR: Limit ourselves now to 1.0, but keep in mind what we want to do for 2.0
> - Zarella, if you have time in advance of the meeting please post
> the current set of output formatting specifications you created in
> Ottawa? I see two action items regarding those documents: (1)
> review of machine-processable form properties from DocBook sources
> (GKH); and (2) review of prose and document structure (ZR and rest
> of committee)
Zarella to post (see related action items above)
> - Bryan and Peter, if you have time in advance of the meeting
> please post your objectives and plans for: (1) the writing of
> input mappings and XForms specifications for use by anyone to
> create an implementation (part of HISC responsibility); and (2) the
> Danish implementation of those specifications as a representative
> example and a resource for others to use (not part of HISC
> responsibility, but still can be included in the package)
Action BR and PB: post list of additional document types and their
respective priorities for implementation, and any discussion items
regarding input mappings and implementations
> - by tomorrow's meeting OASIS should have posted revised
> guidelines to the writing of OASIS specifications using DocBook
> that I am completing today, so I could review that with HISC members
GKH has delivered new DocBook XML authoring environment to OASIS but
it hasn't been mounted yet.
> - note from the Manhattan minutes that the UBL committee is
> expecting from us a draft package by the end of February outlining
> or even detailing (if possible) as much of our deliverables as
> possible, so please consider how much you feel can be done by that
> time (note that for output specifications the only commitment for
> UBL 2 is the eight document types of UBL 1, but it would be nice if
> we had more document types by that time)
Agreed to produce a ZIP of the HISC deliverables to UBL where shell
documents are used as placeholders for where we plan to have
information and that information is not complete.
> - the UBL committee will also want to know what we think we might
> be able to do, and what our dependencies will be, regarding the
> end-of-May cutoff
GKH: we need sample instances of each of the document types
> - I'd like to discuss who will take on the packaging of HISC
> materials to deliver to the UBL committee for inclusion in the
> packages (Zarella, could you please consider taking this step on?)
Covered in the discussions above, ZR to undertake packaging issues.
> - please note that I personally have both standalone and support
> package responsibilities related to code lists that will impact on
> my contribution time for HISC
Next meetings are now planned for Tuesdays, a half hour later than today:
15H00 - 17H00 UTC TUESDAY 14 FEBRUARY 2006
07h00 - 09h00 Mon San Francisco
10h00 - 12h00 Mon New York
23h00 - 01h00 Tue Hong Kong, Singapore, Perth, Beijing
00h00 - 02h00 Tue Seoul, Tokyo
02h00 - 04h00 Tue Sydney
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Other business:
- PB noted they were underway looking at UBL 2 formatting issues
for Invoice comparing the UBL 2 model with UBL 1
- the IRC channel functioned as expected, but not all members were
in a position to use it
Meeting adjourned at 15:20UTC.
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