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Subject: AccountingSupplierParty and AccountingCustomerParty
Hello PSC, I am seriously confused by recent clarifications I obtained during the last PSC meetings about the issuer party of the invoice, the party legal entity information and accounting parties (supplier or customer). I find there is some confusion (that could be in my mind of course) but I hope you can explain me better. Here below I provide you my understanding, ideas and requirements coming from real world use cases, then you could please try to understand where are the mistakes: 1) The Accounting Supplier Party and the Accounting Customer Party are either parties required to be mentioned into an Invoice and registered as part of the bookkeeping into accounting records. These are the parties involved in to VAT or other taxes. Specifically the AccountingSupplierParty is requested (in some cases) to provide legal entity information into the Invoice, for example: - Registration ID of a national business register (e.g. Chambre of Commerce) - Registration ID of particular registers (Building Architect Association...) - Licence ID (e.g. Import/Export license) 2) The PartyLegalEntity are legal information referred to the upper Party (the party wrapping the PartyLegalEntity info) The legal information are related to the legal entity of the same company, not to another third party !!! Example: The legal address and registration ID of the Party's corporate. 3) The Issuer of an Invoice is "usually" the same party as the AccountingSupplierParty, but when the invoicing process is outsourced the outsourcing it is another party. The issued Invoice, by law, is still required to mention the same original AccountingSupplierParty and not the invoicing outsourcer. The outsourcer issues the invoice on behalf of the supplier, but the outsourcer DO NOT substitutes the supplier from the legal point of view. The ONLY case when the Invoice issuer (outsourcer) appears as a Legal Entity on behalf of the AccountingSupplierParty, is the case of the LegalRepresentative when playing the additional role of the issuer party. I am sorry but I have to desagree your vision because: 1) The PartyLegalEntity can just contain legal information of the upper Party (Party that wraps the legal info) 2) The IssuerParty needs to be created separately, as the party legal information are reserved for the AccountingSupplierParty and are often required. The issuer is not responsible for Tax and is not representing legally the supplier at all... The Issuer information is requested by some EU public administrations or financial control authorities to verify the issuer is compliant with national or European regulations. Thank you for any further clarification Roberto -- * JAVEST by Roberto Cisternino * * Document Engineering Services Ltd. - Alliance Member * UBL Italian Localization SubCommittee (ITLSC), co-Chair * UBL Online Community editorial board member (ubl.xml.org) * Italian UBL Advisor Roberto Cisternino mobile: +39 328 2148123 skype: roberto.cisternino.ubl-itlsc [UBL Technical Committee] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl [UBL Online Community] http://ubl.xml.org [UBL International Conferences] http://www.ublconference.org [UBL Italian Localization Subcommittee] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl-itlsc [Iniziativa divulgativa UBL Italia] http://www.ubl-italia.org
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