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Subject: Re: [ubl] Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 May 2009


Mark,
Thank you for your comment and setting me straight. I must confess that I am not very into XML and just jumping into either the UBL or the UNCEFACT NDR seems quiite ominous. Could you share a little more insight into this? Thanks
Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Crawford" <mark.crawford@sap.com>
To: amschoka@comcast.net, "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com>
Cc: "UBL TC" <ubl@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:14:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [ubl] Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 May 2009

-Andy and Ken,
 
You need to read the UBL and UN/CEFACT NDRs to understand why the SCs are not present or required in the UDT.  This is a deliberate action and not a mistake.  Further, the CCT schema is non-normative and should not be used in your deliberations.
 
Kind Regards,
 

Mark

 


From: amschoka@comcast.net [mailto:amschoka@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:18 PM
To: G. Ken Holman
Cc: UBL TC
Subject: Re: [ubl] Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 May 2009

I guess I should have asked first if the ccl8b spreadsheets were also incomplete. UDTs are included in the spreadsheets as a separate sheet....It  seems that if they aren't in the spreadsheets, then its not TMGs problem but TBGs problem....

Andy

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From: "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com>
To: "UBL TC" <ubl@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:25:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [ubl] Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 May 2009

At 2009-05-12 09:59 -0400, Jon Bosak wrote: >Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 May 2009 >... > GKH: The latest UDT from UN/CEFACT is different from the UDT > used in UBL 2.0; the CCTS metadata in our UDT is labled 1.0, > whereas the metadata in the D08B version is labeled 2.01. But > the D08B UDT still does not contain attributes reflecting > supplementary components of all the core component types. For > example, it is missing the Quantity type supplementary > component with the DEN "Quantity Unit. Code List > Agency. Identifier" (see page 100 of the A4 version of CCTS > 2.01). Since the current UDT is insufficient for our purposes, > we will have to create our own instantiation of the CCTS 2.01 > Core Components as XML data types. > > ACTION: GKH to create a UBL 2.1 UDT that instantiates all > the supplementary components of CCTS 2.01. > > AGREED (pending further discussion in the Atlantic call) to > share this with UN/CEFACT for possible use in 09A. Per Andy's suggestion in the Pacific call, rather than work from scratch I've edited the UnqualifiedDataType_7p0.xsd file found in D08B_draft_20090422.zip that Andy gave me. Thanks for the direction, Andy. The UnqualifiedDataType_7p0_mod.xsd file is attached in a Zip file (rename .zzz to .zip if you haven't already made the file association in your system. It is labeled with the version 20090513-0220z. I've annotated at the top of the file all the changes I've made. All the names and descriptions were copied and pasted from CCTS V2.01 table 8-2. Note that I've suggested changing one of the type names, IDType to IdentifierType, as that what we've used in UBL 2.0 ... but really that change isn't important. Since we are generating new schemas for UBL 2.1 we can just as easily point to IDType rather than IdentifierType and still have UBL 2.0 instances validate with UBL 2.1. I just made the note in case it was an oversight on the part of UN/CEFACT abbreviating the object class as well as the other components of the dictionary entry name. I've also added *all* of the supplementary components and not just the ones we need for instance-level metadata identification. So with the addition of these supplementary components we can now support the use cases identified for UBL 2.1. Please review the attachment ASAP and let me know of any changes you'd like to see me make. Once comments are addressed we'll send this to UN/CEFACT ASAP in order to have it considered for the upcoming "09A" release. If we can get them to release this as part of their package, then we'll use their version unmodified in UBL 2.1. Thanks for your input! . . . . . . . . . . . . Ken Here are the excerpts from the original UnqualifiedDataType_7p0.xsd:
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