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Subject: Re: [virtio] virtio tc group status changes


To add to that, if you are a (non voting) member and you wish to gain
voting rights, you can simply ask me or Rusty Russell. You will then
become a voting member 60 days after making the request.


On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 02:35:27PM -0500, Chet Ensign wrote:
> Michael & members of the VIRTIO TC, 
> 
> I have returned the Roster to its state as of Sunday, December 28th. Everyone
> who was a Member at that time is now so marked. Everyone who was an Observer at
> that time remains an Observer. 
> 
> Any of you who wish to change your status from Member to Observer should go to
> the TC webpage at https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/virtio/ and
> click "remove me" under Roster in the top panel of the page. Then refresh the
> page and click "join group" to rejoin and re-set your membership status. Note
> that as an Observer, you will receive mails from the TC mailing list and you
> can attend meetings. However, you are not able to send anything to the mailing
> list nor participate actively in meetings. 
> 
> If you prefer to be able to participate but do not wish to retain voting
> rights, you can simply ask Michael or me to reset your role to Persistent
> Non-Voting Member. 
> 
> Please let me know if you have any questions, 
> 
> /chet
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     got it.
>     can you pls revert changes I made?
> 
>     On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:18:13AM -0500, Chet Ensign wrote:
>     > What is key here is that the individual participants in the TC indicate
>     their
>     > commitment by choosing to be Members or Observers. If a Member wishes
>     remain a
>     > Member, active or not, is his or her choice. If people don't want to be
>     > considered Voting Members, they can change their status or ask you to
>     change
>     > their status to Permanent Non-Voting Member. 
>     >
>     > However, the Member/Observer distinction itself is so fundamental to the
>     OASIS
>     > IPR policy and the IPR mode of the TC that it *must* be made by the
>     > participants themselves. To have the Chair - or OASIS staff for that
>     matter -
>     > change the roles on the roster could create significant confusion about
>     what
>     > each person's obligations are with respect to the final approved OASIS
>     > Standard. 
>     >
>     > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >     On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 09:21:54AM -0500, Chet Ensign wrote:
>     >     > Hi Michael, 
>     >     >
>     >     > Whoops. That is a type of change that you should not make. Observer
>     and
>     >     Member
>     >     > are formal terms in the OASIS Process and the choice between them
>     is to
>     >     be made
>     >     > by the participant, not the Chair. That role bears directly both on
>     what
>     >     the
>     >     > person is able to do (e.g. an Observer will receive all the email
>     to the
>     >     TC's
>     >     > mailing list but will not be able to send any email) and on their
>     IPR
>     >     > obligations (Observers carry none, Members are bound by the TC's
>     IPR
>     >     mode). 
>     >     >
>     >     > The correct change is to switch any Member's status from Voting to
>     >     Non-Voting.
>     >     > Which I think is your intent. 
>     >
>     >     These were non-voting anyway.
>     >
>     >     > Note also that when TCs do not hold meetings for more than 60 days,
>     any
>     >     Members
>     >     > gain Voting status. 
>     >
>     >     That's why I thought I should make the change.
>     >     Should this really apply to people that never attended any meetings?
>     >
>     >     >
>     >     > Let me know if you have any questions. 
>     >     >
>     >     > Best, 
>     >     >
>     >     > /chet 
>     >     >
>     >     > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 5:15 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com
>     >
>     >     wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     Hi all,
>     >     >
>     >     >     To keep the group roster up to date, I have changed the status
>     of
>     >     virtio
>     >     >     TC members that did not attend any past TC meetings (when we
>     still
>     >     had
>     >     >     them) to that of observer.
>     >     >
>     >     >     I have also sent messages to a couple of members that didn't
>     attend
>     >     >     meetings since June: they have an option to become voting
>     members or
>     >     >     observers.
>     >     >
>     >     >     --
>     >     >     MST
>     >     >
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