RE: [wsbpel] Human editable BPEL?

["Martin Chapman" <martin.chapman@oracle.com>]

IMHO the requirements are pretty simple; review the 1.1 spec, fix any bugs,
resolve ambiguities, and
if you want new stuff or if you want to make radical changes propose new
requirements.
I trust the originators of the spec itself to have done the
"meta" requirements exercise, for which BPEL4WS 1.1 is the result.

Martin.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David RR Webber - XML ebusiness [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:34 AM
> To: Yaron Y. Goland
> Cc: wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Human editable BPEL?
>
>
> Yaron,
>
> There's another aspect to this - BPEL is it seems primarily
> intended to be used internally - with only a subset of the logic
> being shared externally.
>
> But what if that logic (that you built in your IDE GUI) is not
> readable - or causes undesirable results - in the IDE GUI
> of Product X - used by your partner?  Or your partners
> BPEL fragment causes bad results on your system? But
> the models look just lovely!
>
> You need to look at the raw XML to figure out why - and more
> to the point - interoperablity between products requires a
> simpler subset.
>
> Broken record - if we get back to the requirements - and if
> interoperability in this way is a key requirement - then
> simpler syntax, and also levels of conformance, are the
> way to go.
>
> Alternately you could just duck this whole issue by using
> something like BPSS to do the external coupling across
> processes.
>
> But we're still waiting for that unnamed graduate student to
> produce for us the definative list of requirements - so we
> can be crystal clear on all this.  What was his name again?
>
> Thanks, DW.
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> Message text written by "Yaron Y. Goland"
> >
> I remember in the late 1980s when everyone argued that source
> code was dead
> and all programs would be written using UIs.
>
> I remember the early 1990s when everyone argued that no one would ever
> directly author HTML.
>
> I also remember the late 1990s when everyone (myself included =( )argued
> that it didn't matter if XML was human editable since everyone would use
> tools.
>
> It's funny how often everyone is wrong.
>
>         Just a thought,
>                         Yaron
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