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Subject: [wsrp-wsia] WSRP TC Call Minutes Thursday, September 19th 2002
Please find the WSRP TC call minutes attached - Richard, thanks for taking
notes during the issues section of the call.
Lothar, could you please put these Minutes on the web site ?
Best regards,
Thomas
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WSRP TC Call Minutes Thursday, September 19th 2002
WSRP Members
William Cox, Bea here
Adrian Fletcher, Bea here
Gino Filicetti, Bowstreet not here
Davanum Srinivas, CA not here
Peter J Quintas, Divine not here
Alan Kropp, Epicentric here
Nigel Ratcliffe, Factiva here
Aditi Karandika, France Telecom not here
Madoka Mitsuoka, Fujitsu here
Takao Mohri, Fujitsu not here
Angel Luis Diaz, IBM not here
Carsten Leue, IBM here
Rich Thompson, IBM here
Charles Wiecha, IBM here
Ron Daniel Jr., Interwoven not here
Jon Klein, Reed-Elsivier not here
Adam Nolen, Reed-Elsivier not here
David Taieb, IBM not here
Petr Palas, Moravia IT not here
Mark Cassidy, Netegrity here
Michael Freedman, Oracle here
Mike Hillerman, Peoplesoft not here
Khurram Mahmood, Peoplesoft not here
Susan Levine, Peoplesoft not here
Sasha Aickin, Plumtree here
Brian Dirking, Stellent here
Alejandro Abdelnur, Sun here
Dave Clegg, Sybase here
Mark Rosenberg, Tibco not here
Eilon Reshef, WebCollage not here
Tim Granshaw, SAP Portals not here
Yossi Tamari, SAP Portals here
Stephen A. White, SeeBeyond not here
Andreas Kuehne, - not here
Eric van Lyndegraf, Kinzan here
Joe Rudnicki here
Andre Kramer here
Prospective Members
Shumakher Gennady, SAP here
Richard Cieply here
WSIA
Ravi Konuro here
Monica Martin here
Rex Brooks here
Accept WSRP Minutes from 3rd Face to Face Meeting
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Minutes have been accepted.
Motion to allow the chair to place resolutions up for e-mail votes
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Topics to vote on will be put up on the mailing list after Tuesdays
prioritization meetings for voting until the Thursday of the following
week.
The e-mail votes will be counted before the meeting and votes made in the
call will be added.
How do we handle voting on the TC Specification ?
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Charlie and Thomas will get Karl Best's advice, an easy option in any case
is for the few WSIA members who are not also WSRP members to join WSRP.
Review schedule proposal and agree on further schedule
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Schedule updated as follows:
Sept 27th Spec Editors provide draft 0.7 for review
Oct 7th TC has provided all comments on 0.7 draft
Oct 20th Spec Editors provide draft 0.8 for review
Nov 4th-8th 4th F2F: Resolve remaining tech. issues
TC by best effort raised all tech. issues for 1.0 Spec
Nov 22nd Editors finish draft 0.9
Put under change control
Dec 16th TC provided all editorial comments on draft 0.9
Last additional tech issues raised by exception
Jan 7th Finish draft 0.91 reflecting edit. comments from TC
Put draft 0.91 on WSRP Web Site to get feedback
Jan 13th-17th 5th F2F: Finalize 1.0 TC Specification
If time permits discuss 2.0 direction/concepts
and compliance test kit
Location: West Coast Host: tbd
Jan 31st Release of WSRP 1.0 Technical Commitee Specification
We'll put the 0.7 and all following drafts on the WSRP web site.
We put the issues list on the WSRP web site as HTML.
WSRP Implementations
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"Release of WSRP 1.0 Open Source Impl. at Apache" taken out of WSRP
schedule since it is separate from the spec and no to do for the TC.
List companies doing implementations on the web site, the Apache Open
Source implementation will be one of hopefully many.
Issues to be discussed / resolved as of Rich's note:
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(#1)
Yossi: chapter 1 to verbose, we teach people to much, spec audience
knows what portals are
Thomas: we could just refer to white paper in the spec introduction
instead of having it entirely in there
Mike: insert appropriate spec oriented introduction instead, add
explanation of what entities, sessions and stuff we are talking about
Bill: Introduction should remain for clearance. 2 Parts of spec
considered not to good. Howevere the tutorial stuff may be moved out.
Stuff like models, concepts, introduction should remain in spec.
Thomas: Consensus seems to be that we should rewrite the intro of the
spec to be more technical than the whitepaper
Decision: Rewrite intro of the specification so that it is not identical
with the whitepaper but more technical as needed to understand the spec.
(#7)
General: need more clarification on session scopes we define.
Rich: we should defer it until spec updated and clarified, so people can
fully understand this issue
(#10)
Rich: handles invariant, while states change.
Currently people need to take a deeper look into it. Defer decision to
next meeting.
(#16)
Rich, Andre, Mike: might be useful but we should defer it for 1.0.
Put this on the issue list. Vote next thursday whether to defer it or
not.
(#42)
Editors need to add clarity to the next draft. Defer decision until
then.
(#44)
Mike: prefer sessionExpires, this is more cleaner.
Rich, Thomas, Carsten: refHandleExpires reflects change to refHandle
better
General: not a really big topic.
Vote on next thursday.
(#45)
General: need more discussion. Defer decision after things become
clearer.
(#48)
Rich: not piece of metadata in V1.0
(unassigned) Relation of Portlets, Portlet Instances and POEs/CCEs
ran out of time. Discuss this next week
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