FW: Next steps in gathering extensibility points, and featuressupported by toolmakers

[<bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com>]

Hi all,

Micah was kind enough to forward his XLIFF Tools Matrix. I think (as Peter suggested), that this will be a nice corollary tool in learning about extensibility points and features supported by toolmakers, as part of our effort to make a more supportable spec. Micah also said he'd try to answer any questions about the matrix as they come up.

Do I have a volunteer to recreate his matrix in the wiki?

Thanks,

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Micah Bly [mailto:micahbly@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:52 PM
To: Schnabel, Bryan S
Subject: Re: Next steps in gathering extensibility points, and features supported by toolmakers

Bryan,

Ok, sounds good to me. Here is the excel file. I actually had it in
Apple iWork Numbers format, but it exported pretty well to Excel. Note
there are hidden data rows that control the full-dot, half-dot,
empty-dot characters. Also, I have separate charts for XLIFF
generators/creators, and XLIFF editors. And if I had no responses from
a company, I left the entire column blank. Doesn't mean the tool is
entirely incompatible.

I'll keep listening on email if there are any questions I might be
able to help with.

Micah


On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:35 PM,  <bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com> wrote:
> Micah,
>
> Good to hear from you again. I can sympathize with your bandwidth constraints. I would be delighted to get you excel chart, and your permission to share them with the XLIFF TC (noting you as the source/author, of course). And if you might be able to answer questions as they come up, that would also be most appreciated.
>
> Thank you very much for having done this great work, and for sharing it with the TC. Hopefully the result will be a much improved XLIFF 2.0.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Micah Bly [mailto:micahbly@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:24 PM
> To: Schnabel, Bryan S
> Subject: Re: Next steps in gathering extensibility points, and features supported by toolmakers
>
> Hi Bryan,
>
> My "free" time is consumed for the next few months with the
> Interoperability project. Is there something specific I could
> contribute to this effort? I would be happy to send the excel chart
> that was the basis of the graphs I showed at LRC, if that would help.
> Or I could answer specific questions if they come up?
>
> Sorry to not be engaged fully, but I want to make sure you're not
> expecting much :)
>
> Micah
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:06 PM,  <bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com> wrote:
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> Thanks for your continued assistance on this topic. We took a vote at our last TC meeting to see if the Wikipedia should be the place where we (the TC) collected information on extensions used by toolmakers, and we did not get a majority vote in favor (see item 3.7, http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00001.html).
>>
>> Instead the TC voted in favor of collecting the data and documenting it on the XLIFF wiki. So toolmakers who do not have write access to the wiki, who would be so helpful as to share what they've found necessary to use extension points to achieve (presumably because the spec is deficient), are requested to share this information with me, or any of the TC members. We will then post the results.
>>
>> Having said that, of course the toolmakers are welcome to add the information under the section you noted in the Wikipedia article. That avenue is not under the TC's control.
>>
>> Thanks once again for your help on this, and for voicing the idea in the first place.
>>
>> - Bryan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thomas Vackier [mailto:Thomas@yamagata-europe.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:39 AM
>> To: Schnabel, Bryan S; xliff-users@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Cc: micahbly@gmail.com
>> Subject: RE: Next steps in gathering extensibility points, and features supported by toolmakers
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm hoping that the toolmakers that use extensions are on this mailing list.
>>
>> I can check with a few of my contacts at Kilgray, Sizulizer, ... if they want to add information themselves and also ask them to subscribe to this list, if they haven't already.
>>
>> Should they add that under "Extensions Used By XLIFF Toolmakers"?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com [mailto:bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com]
>> Sent: vrijdag 28 januari 2011 20:00
>> To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org; Thomas Vackier; xliff-users@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Cc: micahbly@gmail.com
>> Subject: Next steps in gathering extensibility points, and features supported by toolmakers
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As we discussed in the TC, and on this list, it will be fruitful to continue the work of Thomas and Micah in order to find what features toolmakers need to use extensibility to support (Thomas), and which features are supported by which tools (Micah). I started down the road of documenting this by adding a section in the XLIFF article on the wikipedia. Please take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLIFF#Current_Activity_Development_Around_The_XLIFF_Standard
>>
>> We should be careful about our methodology for what we add here. We will need to be sensitive to the impact this might have to the toolmakers. Perhaps event alerting them before we add their name to the lists in the article? Please feel free to reply in this thread with your ideas. I suspect this might need to be addressed in the next TC meeting as well.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>>
>>
>>
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XLIFF_Tools_Matrix_20100922.xls