RE: [asap] Conference call Tue Dec 7

Spoke to Uwe Roediger from IDS Scheer. Sent him pointers to the information on the WfMC site, OASIS site. Gave him a run down of what we were trying to achieve with the Feb demo. He is concerned that he doesn't have much resource to direct at this demo. They are also trying to decide what is the best industry standard XML based process definition to use for import and export which they see as a decision between XPDL and BPEL. So he doesn't want to put effort into XPDL if they subsequently decide to use BPEL. One possibility I discussed was that they just implement the necessary parts of Wf-XML and ASAP to do the interoperability and we perhaps just exchange an ARIS AML definition and import it into Staffware using its conversion tool. The other thing I thought of afterwards was that if the XPDL definition was simple enough whether a simple transformation from AML to XPDL might suffice. Uwe was going to digest the information I sent him and get back to me with some questions - he hasn't so I chased him but have received nothing back yet.

I contacted Arnaud Bezacon at Advantys concerning the simple XPDL definition he had promised to generate at the last WfMC meeting. He told me that he had already sent them to Keith but then sent them to me as well. I believe that they are probably too complex for our needs as they include participants and we had been trying to use an automated process to make it easier to demonstrate.

I contacted our BPEL expert Danny van der Rijn to see if he could design us a simple BPEL process along the lines that Keith has suggested (and provided). Initially feedback looked promising until he looked into what he would need to do to generate a simple process and it turned out that it wouldn't be that simple and his customer commitments wouldn't give him time to progress it.

We are in the process of re-implementing our C# ASAP demo ware into something we're happier with architecturally in Java. We have now got a version that implements all of what we had before but in a more flexible way and implements what we think are the necessary parts of Wf-XML 2.0 to list and exchange the process definitions. i.e. ListDefinitions, AddDefinition, GetDefinition, SetDefinition

ASAP TC members,
We will have our regular ASAP conf call Tuesday Dec 7 at 10am pacific, 1pm eastern.
Here are the new dial-in details:
us toll free: +1 888 942 8686
other: +1 678 259 1046
conference id: 2270680#

Regards,
Sameer

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