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Subject: RE: [bpel4people-editors] RE: [bpel4people] Spec Rev 42 Posted and readyfor submission to the TC


It may take some time (and patience) until a CD is published ... SCA-BPEL
decided to publish a CD in December - it appeared 2 weeks ago ...

Kind Regards
DK


                                                                                          
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  From:       "Luc Clement" <luc.clement@activevos.com>                                                                        
                                                                                                                               
  To:         "'Luc Clement'" <luc.clement@activevos.com>, "'Dave Ings'" <ings@ca.ibm.com>                                     
                                                                                                                               
  Cc:         <bpel4people-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>                                                                       
                                                                                                                               
  Date:       01.08.2008 22:40                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                               
  Subject:    RE: [bpel4people-editors] RE: [bpel4people] Spec Rev 42 Posted and ready for submission to the TC                
                                                                                                                               





On second thought, why don’t we proceed to CD right away based on Rev42  of
WS-02.

Thoughts?

Luc

Luc Clément
Sr Director of Products
Active Endpoints, Inc
+1.978.793.2162  | luc.clement@activevos.com



From: Luc Clement [mailto:luc.clement@activevos.com]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 15:55
To: 'Dave Ings'
Cc: bpel4people-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [bpel4people-editors] RE: [bpel4people] Spec Rev 42 Posted and
ready for submission to the TC



From: Dave Ings [mailto:ings@ca.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:01
To: Luc Clement
Cc: bpel4people-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [bpel4people-editors] RE: [bpel4people] Spec Rev 42 Posted and
ready for submission to the TC



I've re-read the OASIS process several times now :-) and if you are voting
on an interim document it must be at least a Committee Draft. For instance,
in http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#definitions,

"Working Draft" is any version of a specification or other document
produced by the TC which has not yet received any level of approval from
the TC.


[lc] I’d like to give the TC an opportunity to review the current working
draft, and then for the Editors to start working on WD-03. By the sounds of
it, the Editors can proceed with this without a TC vote. Notwithstanding
we’d like the TC to review the current working draft and provide comments
before kicking off work on WD-03.


The matter of issuing our first CD is a separate matter. I propose that we
only proceed to the CD once we’ve incorporated BP-16 (RFC2119) and BP-17
(Conformance Statements) – this of course is purely arbitrary on my part
and would be happy to hear comments from you and the Editors on this.


[/lc]



I think it will avoid contention to designate this as our first CD. I don't
see any downside to this. Do you? Some IPR obligations arise from approving
a draft but that should not be a concern for the current membership of the
TC.


[lc]I suggest that we push this off as suggested above. [/lc]




Regards, Dave Ings,
Emerging Software Standards
Email: ings@ca.ibm.com
Yahoo Messenger: dave_ings

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 From:      "Luc Clement" <luc.clement@activevos.com>                      
                                                                           
                                                                           
 To:        Dave Ings/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA                                    
                                                                           
                                                                           
 Cc:        <bpel4people-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>                     
                                                                           
                                                                           
 Date:      2008/07/31 11:01 AM                                            
                                                                           
                                                                           
 Subject:   [bpel4people-editors] RE: [bpel4people] Spec Rev 42 Posted and 
            ready for submission to the TC                                 
                                                                           








From: Dave Ings [mailto:ings@ca.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 09:51
To: Luc Clement
Cc: bpel4people-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [bpel4people] Spec Rev 42 Posted and ready for submission to
the TC


Hi Luc,

Just to confirm - is the SC proposing that we review Rev 42 and then vote
on it as a Committee Draft?


[lc]No, I see these as separate issues. We’re not suggesting a CD. What we
want the TC to do is review and agree to the changes we’ve incorporated so
far. That will allow us to accept all changes to the documents and proceed
to the next set of revisions.


That being said, I’d be in favour of generating Working Draft 03 which
could serve as the baseline for the next set of revisions. Let’s discuss
during the next TC call.


[/lc]


That would make sense to me. The conventional review period for a CD seems
to be 1 to 2 weeks maximum in OASIS.

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/bpel4people/download.php/28912/BPEL4People%20TC%20Issues%20Process.ppt



[lc]If the TC so chooses, we can proceed to a CD. I think though that this
is too early given the number of Open issues and in particular that we have
not incorporated BP-16 (RFC2119) and BP-17 (Conformance statements) [/lc]



P.S. I have reviewed OASIS process and the CD upload package must include
the editable source (.doc I presume), HTML and PDF, as well as designating
which is the authoritative source (.doc I again presume).


[lc] For the review, I’d like to leave it as PDF. The editors have
encountered many difficulties in line numbering used by Word. We were
astonished to discover that line numbering differs between reviewers in
North America and  Europe, between versions of Word, and Word for Mac.
Doing a review using Word is simply not practical   [/lc]



http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#specQuality

Regards, Dave Ings,
Emerging Software Standards
Email: ings@ca.ibm.com
Yahoo Messenger: dave_ings

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 From:  "Luc Clement" <luc.clement@activevos.com>                          
                                                                           
                                                                           
 To:    Dave Ings/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA                                        
                                                                           
                                                                           
 Cc:    <bpel4people-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>,                        
        <bpel4people@lists.oasis-open.org>                                 
                                                                           
                                                                           
 Date:  2008/07/30 01:52 PM                                                
                                                                           
                                                                           
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Dave,

The Editors have completed work on the first batch of edits. This
represents Rev 42 of WD-02. Rev 42 includes all issues identified at [1].
We’ve packaged at [2] marked up PDFs, and XSD and WSDL documents, and
propose to have TC review the set. I think that we should post [2] to Kavi.
If you agree, please do so.

Once the set is approved by the TC, we plan to accept all changes to the
source Word document and start working on the next set of Resolved Issues.

Please review and let us know how you would like to proceed.

Luc

Luc Clément
Active Endpoints, Inc
+1.978.793.2162 | luc.clement@activevos.com


[1] Applied Issues List:
http://www.osoa.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=10060&status=10002

[2] PDF Markups, XSD/WSDL Documents:
http://wsbpel4people.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wsbpel4people/Specifications/snapshots/rev42.zip?view=log

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