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Subject: Re: [bpel4people-editors] AW: Ivana has the pen for BP-103 and BP-111

Hi Ivana, please see my responses inline (<dk>...</dk>).

Kind Regards

Dieter König

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  From:       "Trickovic, Ivana" <ivana.trickovic@sap.com>             
  To:         Luc Clément <luc.clement@activevos.com>, Dave Ings <ings@ca.ibm.com>, "'Phil Allen (SHAREPOINT DESIGNER)'"
              <phillipa@exchange.microsoft.com>, Dieter Koenig1/Germany/IBM@IBMDE
  Cc:         "bpel4people-editors@lists.oasis-open.org" <bpel4people-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
  Date:       13.10.2009 15:36                                         
  Subject:    [bpel4people-editors] AW: Ivana has the pen for BP-103 and BP-111

Hi all,

Resolutions for BP-103 and BP-111 are in the specification: revision 152 in

Please note the following:
1. For BP-103 the following documents have been modified:
- ws-humantask document
- ws-humantask.xsd: definitions tTask, tTaskBase, and tCompletionBehavior
changed; new simple type "tCompletionAction" introduced:
<xsd:simpleType name="tCompletionAction">
    <xsd:restriction base="xsd:string">
        <xsd:enumeration value="manual" />
        <xsd:enumeration value="automatic" />

Please note that we already have simple type "tInstantiationPattern" which
could be reused (but it would be useful to change the name - make it more

<xsd:simpleType name="tInstantiationPattern">
    <xsd:restriction base="xsd:string">
      <xsd:enumeration value="manual" />
      <xsd:enumeration value="automatic" />

I can make this change if the editors team agrees.
<dk>You may use a common type, e.g. "tInteractionType" (for lack of a
better word).</dk>

2. For BP-111:
>Phil: Motion to resolve Issue 111 with the text, except 9.2.5 should have
the three references to the word 'protocol' removed and to remove the
>CreateLeanTaskResponse and all references to it.
>Matthias Kloppmann: Dieter seconds

The adopted proposal leads to not well-formed WSDL - the createLeanTask
operation has faults so the options were to:
(a) remove CreateLeanTaskResponse and *all faults* (and related
specification text) => but the specification text is needed in case of
two-way operation
(b) keep CreateLeanTaskReponse and make it empty and remove specification
text mentioning task identifier => this specification text is not needed
(c) keep CreateLeanTaskReponse and define it as output message

I selected option (2) as it required the least changes to the adopted
proposal and the remaining work will be done as part of issue
<dk>This is also by preference -- (b)=(2) :-) -- if the BP-128 proposal is
adopted then this is one of two createLeanTask variations anyway.</dk>

I created a new .wsdl - ws-humantask-leantask-api.wsdl. The name has been
already proposed by Dieter (as part of issue BP-128).
<dk>Please add "/api" to the namespace:
" (in WSDL & spec).</dk>

The last point from my side: The BP-111 resolution introduced same faults
(illegalState...) in the new namespace - see new .wsdl. I believe we could
reuse existing faults defined in ws-humantask-api.wsdl. This change can be
made as part of issue BP-128.
<dk>I would keep them separate (as a copy) -- ws-humantask-api.wsdl has
additional faults that do not apply to lean tasks.</dk>

Please let me know if you agree with these changes.

Kind regards,


Ivana Trickovic
Standards Architect
Dietmar-Hopp-Allee 16
69190 Walldorf, Germany
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Von: Luc Clément [mailto:luc.clement@activevos.com]
Gesendet:. Mittwoch, 7. Oktober 2009 17:57
An: bpel4people-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Betreff: [bpel4people-editors] Ivana has the pen for BP-103 and BP-111
 Ivana has volunteered and                                             
 has the pen for the                                                   
 following two issues:                                                 
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 BP-111                       Addition Register, Unregister and    Ivana
                              List to support interop of Task      Tricko
                              Parent and Task Processor            vic 
 BP-103                       HT 4.7.1. Should we allow the        Ivana
                              attachment of completion criteria to Tricko
                              a task element                       vic 


Luc Clément
Active Endpoints, Inc




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