Re: [chairs] relations with W3C

[Phil Griffin <phil.griffin@asn-1.com>]

Hal,

It is not quite true that "All the OASIS Security-related
TCs have a relationship with the security-related activities
at W3C." This is not true for XCBF, which has its closest
ties perhaps to ANSI X9 security activities and the emerging
XML work being done there.

In particular XCBF has ties to the X9F4 Security Applications
group for X9.84 and to the X9F3 Cryptographic Protocols group
working on X9.96 XML CMS, an alternative to the W3C XMLDSIG 
effort. There's also reliance on the work of ITU-T SG17 for 
their ASN.1 schema for XML markup, which XCBF will use to try
to harmonize the two binary message formats for biometrics
specified in the NIST CBEFF work.

So, I think it would be helpful to start out with the view 
that while we share some common interests (promoting OASIS as
an important standards organization, trying to broaden its 
appeal, its scope and the use of its standards), but that these
interests are not across the board. 

Some of what each of us do, both within and outside of OASIS
may not be of much interest to all of the others. In my work
with various security-related standards bodies, I tend to wear
many hats.

Phil
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> Hal Lockhart wrote:
> 
> Karl,
> 
> All the OASIS Security-related TCs have a relationship with the
> security-related activities at W3C. Existing liaisons have been
> facilitated by the significant overlap in participants. A
> comprehensive discussion of all the relationships would require
> considerable analysis and probably would include some controversial
> points.
> 
> Focusing spacifically on SAML and XACML, both are dependant on XML
> signature. Both intend to encorporate XML encryption, once it is
> reasonably complete. Both could be used in conjunction with XKMS, but
> the coupling is much more indirect.
> 
> A much more significant dependancy is that SAML and XACML are defined
> using XML Schema. XACML is also making significant use of XPATH.
> 
> SAML is expected to be used in a Web Services environment (among
> others). SAML is defining both a Binding and a Profile (SAML-specific
> terms) for SOAP. The intention is to update one or both of these for
> XML Protocol when it matures.
> 
> A SAML WSDL file has been proposed.
> 
> I think those are the major interrelationships.
> 
> Hal
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:20 PM
> > To: chairs
> > Subject: [chairs] relations with W3C
> >
> >
> > Chairs:
> >
> > The managements of OASIS and of W3C have been in conversation the
> last
> > couple of months about how the two organizations could better
> > be working
> > together. As part of our discussions W3C has asked for
> > specific problems
> > or concerns that should be addressed.
> >
> > In preparation for our next meeting at the end of next week I
> > would like
> > to hear from any of the OASIS TCs that now have or could have
> > a liaison
> > relationship with a W3C working group or activity, or whose
> technical
> > work in some way overlaps or relates to their work.
> >
> > Please let me know what specific issues your TC may have including
> but
> > not limited to obstacles to working together, divergent goals, IP
> > issues, scheduling issues, what groups you need to work with, etc.
> >
> >
> > </karl>
> > =================================================================
> > Karl F. Best
> > OASIS - Director, Technical Operations
> > +1 978.667.5115 x206
> > karl.best@oasis-open.org  http://www.oasis-open.org
> >
> >
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