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Subject: Re: [chairs] Individual members representation?


Karl,

I think we'd sorta reached a natural end point in any case
on this one.. Useful feedback garnered - better sense of
landscape - link to Board minutes area for those that
care deeply on that - discussion on issues.  The itch is
scratched!

Always important to know where the fail-safe buttons
are and the edge limits of any system.

Thanks, DW


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karl F. Best" <karl.best@oasis-open.org>
To: "Chairs OASIS" <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
Cc: "Newcomer, Eric" <Eric.Newcomer@iona.com>; "Christopher B Ferris"
<chrisfer@us.ibm.com>; "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>; "Rex Brooks"
<rexb@starbourne.com>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [chairs] Individual members representation?


> Sorry to have had a dampening effect on the discussion. I certainly
> don't want to discourage any good ideas or suggestions, and this list is
> a good way for me to hear how you, the TC chairs, feel about things. I
> just wanted to point out that you, collectively, cannot make decisions
> regarding policy. It's up to the Board to decide policy and staff to
> implement it. But I'm more than happy to report to the Board when I hear
> of any sort of collective opinion; this *has* influenced policy and
> process in the past.
>
> -Karl
>
>
> Karl F. Best wrote:
> > This list is neither a deliberative nor an authoritative body. The list
> > was created so that I would have a way to make announcements to the
> > chairs. If any of the chairs, or other members, have feedback on
> > procedures or policy they can communicate their comments to staff, TAB,
> > or Board as appropriate.
> >
> > -Karl
> >
> >
> > Newcomer, Eric wrote:
> >
> >> Do we have any ability as chairs to decide procedural matters with
> >> respect to how the TCs are run etc.?  Say we wanted to change or add a
> >> rule, does it always have to go to the board?
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Christopher B Ferris [mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 7:51 AM
> >> To: Newcomer, Eric
> >> Cc: Chairs OASIS; David RR Webber; Rex Brooks
> >> Subject: RE: [chairs] Individual members representation?
> >>
> >>
> >> Eric,
> >>
> >> Isn't that what this list (chairs) is for? Why a separate forum?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Christopher Ferris
> >> STSM, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture
> >> email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
> >> phone: +1 508 234 3624
> >>
> >> "Newcomer, Eric" <Eric.Newcomer@iona.com> wrote on 11/30/2003 12:00:10
PM:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Actually my thought is to initiate a forum for chairs so we can try to
> >>
> >>
> >> drive some consistency at
> >>
> >>> the TC level - not sure we need the board for that?
> >>>
> >>> Eric
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 4:01 PM
> >>> To: David RR Webber; Chairs OASIS
> >>> Subject: Re: [chairs] Individual members representation?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I'm going to reply to this original post rather than assess the
various
> >>
> >>
> >> replies so far because I
> >>
> >>> don't have a lot to say on thos particular topic.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think indies, which I happen to be, need a separate BoD member
> >>
> >>
> >> though it should be
> >>
> >>> encouraged that one be elected. We might consider asking for or
> >>
> >>
> >> organizing a group or a mailing
> >>
> >>> list of our own, as public as all the rest of the TCs, members
sections
> >>
> >>
> >> and Focus Areas. I haven't
> >>
> >>> made up my own mind about that since adding yet another group to my
own
> >>
> >>
> >> list is rather unworkable,
> >>
> >>> though monitoring such a group and posting to a list would be doable.
> >>>
> >>> However, I do think that the independents should vote on
specifications
> >>
> >>
> >> either through an elected
> >>
> >>> representative who casts the vote for the independents on the basis of
a
> >>
> >>
> >> separate ballot. That one
> >>
> >>> vote would count as much as any member company vote.
> >>>
> >>> At least that's my thinking on it. However, to be honest I do not feel
> >>
> >>
> >> strongly enough about it to
> >>
> >>> take time away from the work I am already doing.
> >>>
> >>> Ciao,
> >>> Rex
> >>>
> >>> At 11:17 AM -0500 11/29/03, David RR Webber wrote:
> >>> As we are approaching year end some retrospective thoughts and
> >>> looks ahead occur.
> >>>
> >>> Would it make sense to add a Board member who represents all
> >>> the individual members?
> >>>
> >>> Clearly there are large numbers now contributing to every OASIS
> >>> team.  But only corporate members get to vote and nominate
> >>> board members.
> >>>
> >>> Do we need balance, and would input from individual members help?
> >>> Would this help toward working with groups such as ISO in the
> >>> future?
> >>>
> >>> Some ground rules would be needed - and also OASIS would need
> >>> to cover expenses for the person - as obviously they do not have
> >>> a corporate sponsor.  If the person subsequently joined a corporation
> >>> would this automatically trigger a new appointment - or could it
> >>> be discretionary?
> >>> We could certainly also have a meeting room and feedback area
> >>> for individual members via Kavi as another resource.
> >>>
> >>> Personally as an individual member I would definately value reports
> >>> back from the board from an independent member there.
> >>>
> >>> OK - so I've taken the lid off a large can of worms here, but this
> >>> was an itch so I thought I'd better scratch it!
> >>> What are the pro's and con's?  Is this workable?
> >>>
> >>> DW.
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Rex Brooks
> >>> GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth
> >>> W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com
> >>> Email: rexb@starbourne.com
> >>> Tel: 510-849-2309
> >>> Fax: By Request
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> -- 
> =================================================================
> Karl F. Best
> Vice President, OASIS
> office  +1 978.667.5115 x206     mobile +1 978.761.1648
> karl.best@oasis-open.org      http://www.oasis-open.org
>
>



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