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Subject: Re: [chairs] Individual members representation?
Karl, I think we'd sorta reached a natural end point in any case on this one.. Useful feedback garnered - better sense of landscape - link to Board minutes area for those that care deeply on that - discussion on issues. The itch is scratched! Always important to know where the fail-safe buttons are and the edge limits of any system. Thanks, DW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl F. Best" <karl.best@oasis-open.org> To: "Chairs OASIS" <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org> Cc: "Newcomer, Eric" <Eric.Newcomer@iona.com>; "Christopher B Ferris" <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>; "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>; "Rex Brooks" <rexb@starbourne.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [chairs] Individual members representation? > Sorry to have had a dampening effect on the discussion. I certainly > don't want to discourage any good ideas or suggestions, and this list is > a good way for me to hear how you, the TC chairs, feel about things. I > just wanted to point out that you, collectively, cannot make decisions > regarding policy. It's up to the Board to decide policy and staff to > implement it. But I'm more than happy to report to the Board when I hear > of any sort of collective opinion; this *has* influenced policy and > process in the past. > > -Karl > > > Karl F. Best wrote: > > This list is neither a deliberative nor an authoritative body. The list > > was created so that I would have a way to make announcements to the > > chairs. If any of the chairs, or other members, have feedback on > > procedures or policy they can communicate their comments to staff, TAB, > > or Board as appropriate. > > > > -Karl > > > > > > Newcomer, Eric wrote: > > > >> Do we have any ability as chairs to decide procedural matters with > >> respect to how the TCs are run etc.? Say we wanted to change or add a > >> rule, does it always have to go to the board? > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Christopher B Ferris [mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com] > >> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 7:51 AM > >> To: Newcomer, Eric > >> Cc: Chairs OASIS; David RR Webber; Rex Brooks > >> Subject: RE: [chairs] Individual members representation? > >> > >> > >> Eric, > >> > >> Isn't that what this list (chairs) is for? Why a separate forum? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Christopher Ferris > >> STSM, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture > >> email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com > >> phone: +1 508 234 3624 > >> > >> "Newcomer, Eric" <Eric.Newcomer@iona.com> wrote on 11/30/2003 12:00:10 PM: > >> > >> > >>> Actually my thought is to initiate a forum for chairs so we can try to > >> > >> > >> drive some consistency at > >> > >>> the TC level - not sure we need the board for that? > >>> > >>> Eric > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] > >>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 4:01 PM > >>> To: David RR Webber; Chairs OASIS > >>> Subject: Re: [chairs] Individual members representation? > >> > >> > >> > >>> I'm going to reply to this original post rather than assess the various > >> > >> > >> replies so far because I > >> > >>> don't have a lot to say on thos particular topic. > >>> > >>> I don't think indies, which I happen to be, need a separate BoD member > >> > >> > >> though it should be > >> > >>> encouraged that one be elected. We might consider asking for or > >> > >> > >> organizing a group or a mailing > >> > >>> list of our own, as public as all the rest of the TCs, members sections > >> > >> > >> and Focus Areas. I haven't > >> > >>> made up my own mind about that since adding yet another group to my own > >> > >> > >> list is rather unworkable, > >> > >>> though monitoring such a group and posting to a list would be doable. > >>> > >>> However, I do think that the independents should vote on specifications > >> > >> > >> either through an elected > >> > >>> representative who casts the vote for the independents on the basis of a > >> > >> > >> separate ballot. That one > >> > >>> vote would count as much as any member company vote. > >>> > >>> At least that's my thinking on it. However, to be honest I do not feel > >> > >> > >> strongly enough about it to > >> > >>> take time away from the work I am already doing. > >>> > >>> Ciao, > >>> Rex > >>> > >>> At 11:17 AM -0500 11/29/03, David RR Webber wrote: > >>> As we are approaching year end some retrospective thoughts and > >>> looks ahead occur. > >>> > >>> Would it make sense to add a Board member who represents all > >>> the individual members? > >>> > >>> Clearly there are large numbers now contributing to every OASIS > >>> team. But only corporate members get to vote and nominate > >>> board members. > >>> > >>> Do we need balance, and would input from individual members help? > >>> Would this help toward working with groups such as ISO in the > >>> future? > >>> > >>> Some ground rules would be needed - and also OASIS would need > >>> to cover expenses for the person - as obviously they do not have > >>> a corporate sponsor. If the person subsequently joined a corporation > >>> would this automatically trigger a new appointment - or could it > >>> be discretionary? > >>> We could certainly also have a meeting room and feedback area > >>> for individual members via Kavi as another resource. > >>> > >>> Personally as an individual member I would definately value reports > >>> back from the board from an independent member there. > >>> > >>> OK - so I've taken the lid off a large can of worms here, but this > >>> was an itch so I thought I'd better scratch it! > >>> What are the pro's and con's? Is this workable? > >>> > >>> DW. > >>> > >>> -- > >> > >> > >> > >>> Rex Brooks > >>> GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth > >>> W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com > >>> Email: rexb@starbourne.com > >>> Tel: 510-849-2309 > >>> Fax: By Request > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > ================================================================= > Karl F. Best > Vice President, OASIS > office +1 978.667.5115 x206 mobile +1 978.761.1648 > karl.best@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org > >
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