Re: [chairs] need your comments on DocMgmt system requirements

[Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>]

Sigh,

I only meant that both eclipse and netbeans offer useful front-ends. Of 
course, they are both
Open Source projects and as such non-proprietary, but all that aside... 
the point is that there
are a gazillion CVS clients available. You don't like one, you have a sea 
of others from which
to choose. You can use any platform you like as well.

As the old French adage goes "chacun en son gout!".

Cheers,

Christopher Ferris
STSM, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
blog: http://webpages.charter.net/chrisfer/blog.html
phone: +1 508 377 9295

Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com> wrote on 02/18/2004 05:30:16 PM:

> I'm in the process of reading and reviewing this thread, having read 
> the document Karl sent out yesterday, and I plan to summarize my own 
> thoughts at the current end, when I get there, but in the meantime, 
> when I come across a note like this one, I want to say that while 
> NetBeans works for me, I don't think it would fly for OASIS to be 
> tied to any proprietary solution.
> 
> Ciao,
> Rex
> 
> At 9:54 AM -0500 2/18/04, Christopher B Ferris wrote:
> >David,
> >
> >Have you seen WebCVS? CVS is NOT only accessible via the command-line. 
Not
> >only that
> >but there are a vast array of GUI clients available for CVS as well,
> >including Eclipse and likely
> >NetBeans.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Christopher Ferris
> >STSM, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture
> >email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
> >blog: http://webpages.charter.net/chrisfer/blog.html
> >phone: +1 508 377 9295
> >
> >"David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info> wrote on 02/17/2004 11:13:50 PM:
> >
> >>  Karl,
> >>
> >>  Some of these seem like good ideas - but overall I sense this will
> >>  be cumbersome to use and hard to implement.  CVS style
> >>  generally is more programmer friendly than user friendly.
> >>
> >>  I'm really after something that's simpler and more predictable
> >>  than currently.  I really do not want the system inventing
> >>  OASIS filenames for me - generally I have good reasons
> >>  for using certain file names - and then also - when it is
> >>  a spec' - I want to create that name myself before hand
> >>  and keep it - since I do not want to have to edit references
> >>  to whatever the system called it - assuming I can find that
> >>  out.
> >>
> >>  The biggest thing by far is the persistent URLs - but I
> >>  liked Matt MacKenzies suggestion on this a few weeks
> >>  back.  If persistent URLs means something like:
> >>
> >>
> >>  http://persistentURL.oasis-open.
> >>
> 
>org/committees/bcm/documents/kaviCVS/WE4X78/archive/ERYT67A/temporary/store/oasis.bcm.
> >>  word/draft/february/2004/WT5677/more/draft.120304.bcm.doc
> >>
> >>  That's not what I have in mind!  Shorter is MUCH better.
> >>
> >>  The idea of being able to see Access counts is excellent,
> >>  that would be helpful.
> >>
> >>  If the system could automatically track when one document
> >>  is replacing another and keep a history tree - that would be
> >>  a plus.  But this should be simply driven with a drop-down
> >>  list of recently uploaded documents.  We definately
> >>  do not want to be writing CVS style command line
> >>  storage instructions!
> >>
> >>  Thanks, DW.
> >>
> >>
> >>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>  From: "Karl F. Best" <karl.best@oasis-open.org>
> >>  To: "Chairs OASIS" <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>; "Jeff Lomas"
> >>  <Jeff.Lomas@oasis-open.org>
> >>  Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:48 PM
> >>  Subject: [chairs] need your comments on DocMgmt system requirements
> >>
> >>
> >>  > TC Chairs, Secretaries:
> >>  >
> >>  > Early last month I sent out a request for your input on priorities 
for
> >>  > new functionality that OASIS needs to provide to the TCs. It's 
obvious
> >>  > that our first priority needs to be a document management system.
> >OASIS
> >>  > management and technical staff have agreed to this.
> >>  >
> >>  > I've put together a draft functional requirements document for 
this
> >doc
> >>  > mgmt system and would like to get your feedback. It is very 
important
> >>  > that we have the requirements correct and complete before we start
> >>  > development of the project -- many of you are developers so I'm 
sure
> >>  > that you understand the importance of this.
> >>  >
> >>  > Please send your comments in the next week or so if at all 
possible.
> >>  > Jeff Lomas, our Technology Services manager, and I will be 
finalizing
> >>  > these requirements and starting system design and development by 
the
> >end
> >>  > of this month.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > -Karl
> >>  >
> >>  > =================================================================
> >>  > Karl F. Best
> >>  > Vice President, OASIS
> >>  > office  +1 978.667.5115 x206     mobile +1 978.761.1648
> >>  > karl.best@oasis-open.org      http://www.oasis-open.org
> >  > >
> >>
> 
> 
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