RE: [chairs] [Fwd: New requirements on Individual Members]

["Skyberg, David" <dskyberg@rsasecurity.com>]

My suspicion is that it may be difficult to get nonmember organizations to
agree to member level commitements (which is basically what Steve's last
point leads to).  Since the nub of this is that individual IP is granted to
the organization (via employee contracts), an alternative might be for an
organization to sign a waiver of IP to free the employee to work with OASIS.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: June Leung [mailto:June.Leung@FundSERV.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:42 AM
> To: Eduardo Gutentag; OASIS Chairs
> Cc: ipr-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [chairs] [Fwd: New requirements on Individual Members]
> 
> Eduardo, thanks for the reminder.  I've added the IPR review group to this
> email string.
> 
> To add to Steve's point, when an individual is actively involved in a TC
> and decided to change jobs and the new company is not a member of Oasis;
> it'll be very difficult to convince/demonstrate to the new company that
> Oasis is a valuable organization to join.  Even if the company is
> interested to join, there might be budget constraints to do so
> immediately.  It'll be a lot easier for that individual to become
> individual member first and continue their work.   I don't think TC
> members should be "excluded" when they change jobs.
> 
> June Leung
> Manager, PKI Department
> FundSERV Inc.
> 1730 130 King St W
> Toronto ON M5X 1E5
> T. 416.350.2516
> F. 416.362.6668
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eduardo Gutentag [mailto:Eduardo.Gutentag@Sun.COM]
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 1:07 PM
> To: 'OASIS Chairs'
> Subject: Re: [chairs] [Fwd: New requirements on Individual Members]
> 
> 
> Just a reminder: comments in this list will never be seen by the
> Board unless sent (or cc'd) to ipr-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org
> It would be a pity if that were to happen...
> 
> On 08/06/2004 09:09 AM, Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
> > Maybe the problem could be solved by making a new class of member,
> > "corporate individual", which may have a time limit on it, or a price
> which
> > is more than "individual".
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deleys Brandman [mailto:dbrandman@commerce.net]
> > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:58 AM
> > To: Steve Hanna; OASIS Chairs
> > Subject: RE: [chairs] [Fwd: New requirements on Individual Members]
> >
> > I agree with Steve that the individual is one that is frequently used to
> > explore how OASIS is valuable to the larger organization. I would
> > support Steve's suggestion. If we need to attach a timetable, like a
> > year, that might be a good compromise as well.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Hanna [mailto:shanna@funk.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 8:48 AM
> > To: OASIS Chairs
> > Subject: [chairs] [Fwd: New requirements on Individual Members]
> >
> > Other OASIS chairs,
> >
> > I suspect you may not be aware of the major changes
> > in requirements for Individual Members included in
> > the recent proposed IPR Policy. Individual Membership
> > would no longer be available to anyone whose IP is
> > owned by his or her employer (as required by most
> > employment agreements).
> >
> > Please review my comments below. Whatever your
> > opinions on this topic, I encourage you to submit
> > comments to ipr-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org
> > before the end of the comment period (September 10).
> > I also encourage you to inform your TCs of this
> > proposed change and encourage your members to submit
> > comments on this or any other aspects of the proposed
> > revised IPR Policy.
> >
> > For your reference, the draft IPR Policy is at
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-only/download.php/7
> > 515
> > and the FAQ is at
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-only/download.php/7
> > 554
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve Hanna
> > Co-chair, OASIS PKI TC
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: New requirements on Individual Members
> > Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:37:14 -0400
> > From: Steve Hanna <shanna@funk.com>
> > To: ipr-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org
> >
> > The new proposed IPR Policy includes a most
> > unwelcome and unfortunate change. Here's the text
> > in the FAQ that describes it:
> >
> > 3.6. Are there changes to the eligibility rules
> >       for Individual members?
> >
> >       Yes. If an individual's IP is owned by his or her
> >       employer, (as is required by most employment agreements),
> >       he or she will be unable to continue to participate under
> >       the OASIS Individual Membership level.
> >
> > In my view, this change would be an awful mistake.
> > Here are three reasons why:
> >
> > 1) Individual Members are among the most enthusiastic
> >     and energetic members of my TC and many others.
> >
> > 2) For many organizations, Individual Membership is
> >     a path to Organizational Membership. They start
> >     by having one Individual Member. Then several
> >     more join and their management sees that OASIS
> >     is important to their business.
> >
> > 3) Making this change would make OASIS less open,
> >     ensuring that only organizations or unemployed
> >     individuals can participate.
> >
> > The FAQ states that this change is being made "to
> > ensure that Contributions have clear licensing
> > obligations and that licenses are available to
> > implement all OASIS Standards and specifications."
> >
> > I support this goal but I think it could better
> > be achieved by requiring Individual Members whose
> > IP is owned by their employers to have those
> > employers sign documents agreeing to the
> > necessary obligations.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve Hanna
> > Co-chair, OASIS PKI TC
> >
> >
> >
> 
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