Re: [chairs] Cost of conference bridge?

[Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com>]

Duane

Firstly I agree that VOIP is not yet of sufficient quality to support 
50+ users on a conference bridge.

However, the request to sponsor or host a conference bridge is not about 
the long distance call costs. I don't see why members dialling in 
shouldn't call a long-distance US number. The cost of hosting toll-free 
numbers is around twice the costs of buying a calling card for the same 
time period, and I don't see why members shouldn't self-fund their own 
costs.

However, having a centrally organised conference bridge of good enough 
quality for our TCs seems a reasonable request.

Paul

Duane Nickull wrote:
>
> David et al:
>
> There is one thing to keep in mind. The W3C really does not pay for it 
> – the members do. If OASIS provides this, the member companies AND 
> individual members should reasonably expect their dues to go up given 
> the money must come from somewhere. What we are really talking about 
> is a pooling of the costs associated with holding meetings.
>
> Yes – it is great for those who deem the occasional long distance 
> charge as a barrier to their participation in TC’s. IMO VOIP is still 
> a bit unreliable.
>
> Why should OASIS run the VOIP server? There are plenty of companies 
> out there like Skype, Gizmo etc that do this for free already.
>
> Personally, I would rather use their services that request that Scott 
> and Jamie duplicate this. I think their time is best spent else where.
>
> Duane
>
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>
> *From:* David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2006 8:19 AM
> *To:* Rex Brooks
> *Cc:* chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; Elysa Jones; Juan Carlos Cruellas; 
> Nick Pope
> *Subject:* [chairs] Cost of conference bridge?
>
> Does anyone know how much the W3C budgets for their conference bridge 
> each year?
>
> I've never investigated the market rate for such things.
>
> Or can we all just run to a VOIP server at OASIS ??!!!
>
> DW
>
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [chairs] Conference call infrastructure
>     From: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>
>     Date: Fri, January 13, 2006 10:45 am
>     To: Elysa Jones <ejones@warningsystems.com>, Juan Carlos Cruellas
>     <cruellas@ac.upc.edu>, Nick Pope <pope@secstan.com>
>     Cc: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
>
>     +5
>
>     At 9:07 AM -0600 1/13/06, Elysa Jones wrote:
>     >+4!!!
>     >
>     >At 04:51 AM 1/13/2006, Juan Carlos Cruellas wrote:
>     >>+3
>     >>Nick Pope wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>+2
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>>-----Original Message-----
>     >>>>From: Miko Matsumura [mailto:mmatsumura@infravio.com]
>     >>>>Sent: 12 January 2006 22:45
>     >>>>To: Paul Fremantle; James Bryce Clark; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
>     >>>>Subject: RE: [chairs] Conference call infrastructure
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>+1
>     >>>>-----Original Message-----
>     >>>>From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com] Sent: Thursday,
>     >>>>January 12, 2006 2:39 PM
>     >>>>To: James Bryce Clark; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
>     >>>>Subject: [chairs] Conference call infrastructure
>     >>>>
>     >>>>There was a previous suggestion that OASIS might sponsor or
>     provide a
>     >>>>conference call facility for TC working groups.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>At that time someone suggested using the freeconference.com
>     facility.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>Our TC has been using that for the last two months, but it
>     seems like
>     >>>>we, like the compulsive gambler who has the bad luck to win
>     first time,
>     >>>>were unlucky enough to get a more favourable impression of the
>     facility
>     >>>>than was warranted. In other words - it worked the first time,
>     but has
>     >>>>been pretty useless since. It may be that freeconference works
>     very well
>     >>>>for smaller TCs, but we have an average of 40-50 participants
>     weekly and
>     >>>>this week our call was virtually inaudible due to echo on the
>     line. A
>     >>>>number of participants dialled out and in again in an attempt
>     to fix it
>     >>>>without luck. I use freeconference for smaller calls and it is
>     pretty
>     >>>>good, but it seems like it can't deal with the large numbers we
>     have.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>Our TC has therefore asked to raise the issue with OASIS once
>     again -
>     >>>>can OASIS please provide a teleconference infrastructure or
>     sponsorship
>     >>>>which will support this number of callers?
>     >>>>
>     >>>>Thanks,
>     >>>>Paul
>     >>>>
>     >>>>--
>     >>>>Paul Fremantle
>     >>>>VP/Technology, WSO2 and OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>     >>>>
>     >>>>http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
>     >>>>paul@wso2.com
>     >>>>
>     >>>>"Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
>
>
>     -- 
>     Rex Brooks
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Paul Fremantle
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paul@wso2.com

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