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Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire


David, Nick et al,
 
Skype has announced a partner that provides conference calling for large
groups that enables Skype users to connect for free and allows non-Skype users
to call a local number in the US, UK, France and Germany (at least those
countries for now).  It also allows for users to connect/call in on their own
or drop off, without disrupting the entire group.
 
OASIS Staff are still testing this, so it is not being formally recommended
for TC usage, but you should at least be aware of this capability and judge
for yourself how well it works.  We have held an internal conference call with
about 8 people connecting from both phone call-in and from Skype users; there
was no noticeable degradation in voice quality in contrast to other free
conference calling services.
 
Here is the link to the service provider:
 
http://www.highspeedconferencing.com/
 
 
In the mean time, we still need the TC Chairs to answer the first part of the
questionnaire from Scott McGrath, so we have better statistics about the range
of conference calling needs of our TCs.  This information is important so that
staff and the Board can make informed decisions.

Patrick Gannon
President & CEO
OASIS
+1.978.667.5115 x201  - office
+1.978.761.3546       - mobile
Skype: pgannon
www.oasis-open.org

 

 


________________________________

	From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info] 
	Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:48 AM
	To: Nick Pope
	Cc: Barbara Erbes; Chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; Scott McGrath;
donald_harbison@us.ibm.com; Duane Nickull
	Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire
	
	
	Nick,
	 
	Agreed - Skype conferencing is not stable enough for large #'s - e.g.
more than three people!  However, mix n match - Skype lines into a traditional
conference bridge - would be interesting to see how that worked...?!
	 
	And my point is that this is technology to watch - it clearly is
getting better rapidly.
	 
	DW
	



		-------- Original Message --------
		Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire
		From: "Nick Pope" <nickpope@secstan.com>
		Date: Wed, May 24, 2006 11:21 am
		To: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com>, "David RR Webber
(XML)"
		<david@drrw.info>
		Cc: "Barbara Erbes" <barbara.erbes@oasis-open.org>,
		<Chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>, "Scott McGrath"
		<scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org>, <donald_harbison@us.ibm.com>
		
		
		Not for the numbers that are on our calls.  A skype conference
is limited to about 5 and there is no call in.
		Nick

			-----Original Message-----
			From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
			Sent: 24 May 2006 16:02
			To: Nick Pope; David RR Webber (XML)
			Cc: Barbara Erbes; Chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; Scott
McGrath; donald_harbison@us.ibm.com
			Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services
questionnaire
			
			

						And you can do this today.
You don't need OASIS to get involved to set it up.

						D

			*******************************
			Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com
<http://www.adobe.com/> 
			Adobe Developer Program - http://developer.adobe.com/
			Chair - OASIS SOA Reference Model Technical Committee
			Personal Blog - http://technoracle.blogspot.com/
			*******************************

			________________________________

						From: Nick Pope
[mailto:nickpope@secstan.com] 
			Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:45 AM
			To: David RR Webber (XML); Duane Nickull
			Cc: Barbara Erbes; Chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; Scott
McGrath; donald_harbison@us.ibm.com
			Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services
questionnaire

						I agree a Skype POP would be
great!

						Nick 

				-----Original Message-----
				From: David RR Webber (XML)
[mailto:david@drrw.info]
				Sent: 23 May 2006 17:24
				To: Duane Nickull
				Cc: Barbara Erbes;
Chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; Scott McGrath; donald_harbison@us.ibm.com
				Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference
Services questionnaire

				Duane,

								We talking at
cross purposes here I believe - the discussion was "if we did something -what
might it be?" - information gathering.  Not decision process - Yes / No - to
actually do it.

								The beauty of
Skype POP is zero cost for actual calls placed.  For those of us spending
$100's monthly on international calls - this is a critical factor.

								If OASIS has a
Skype # in country - its a free call via Skype, or just a local call rate from
a landline phone.

								Clearly this
is a big deal in encouraging overseas participation in TC work.

								DW

	
-------- Original Message --------
					Subject: RE: [chairs] TC
Teleconference Services questionnaire
					From: "Duane Nickull"
<dnickull@adobe.com>
					Date: Tue, May 23, 2006 12:06 pm
					To: "David RR Webber (XML)"
<david@drrw.info>,
					<donald_harbison@us.ibm.com>
					Cc: "Barbara Erbes"
<barbara.erbes@oasis-open.org>,
					<Chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>, "Scott
McGrath"
					<scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org>
					
					
					

					Sorry - but I have to disagree with
this in principle.  Yes - Skype is good and the cost is very low but I do not
think that OASIS should bother with the overhead of being a conference call
sponsor.  Simply put, the costs will be greater than if we continue organizing
it ourselves and that cost has no other place to be passed on than to us, the
members.  

					IMO - it is much more efficient for
each TC to arrange their own resources for meetings.  Let OASIS keep focused
on major issues like IPR, working with other SDO's, providing the web
infrastructure (WIKI's etc).

					My $0.02 CAD worth.

					Duane

					*******************************
					Adobe Systems, Inc. -
http://www.adobe.com <http://www.adobe.com/> 
					Adobe Developer Program -
http://developer.adobe.com/ <http://developer.adobe.com/> 
					Chair - OASIS SOA Reference Model
Technical Committee
					Personal Blog -
http://technoracle.blogspot.com/ <http://technoracle.blogspot.com/> 
					*******************************

					________________________________

	
From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info] 
					Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:41 AM
					To: donald_harbison@us.ibm.com
					Cc: 'Barbara Erbes';
Chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; Scott McGrath
					Subject: RE: [chairs] TC
Teleconference Services questionnaire

					Just a quick supplemental thought -
internet technology could be changing this landscape (again).

					I just purchased a standalone Skype
phone by Linksys / Cisco (not Skype thru the PC speakers et al).  The quality
is dramatically better with Skype V2 than it was last year on Skype V1.

					OASIS could consider setting up local
Skype dial-in numbers in each member country?  

					The cost for each is modest. Maybe
Cisco / Skype could sponsor that for us?

					DW

					-------- Original Message --------
					Subject: Re: [chairs] TC
Teleconference Services questionnaire
					From: donald_harbison@us.ibm.com
					Date: Mon, May 22, 2006 3:18 pm
					To: "Scott McGrath"
<scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org>
					Cc: "'Barbara Erbes'"
<barbara.erbes@oasis-open.org>,
					Chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
					
					
					Scott, 
					
					Michael Winters, our IBM OASIS Board
member is in favor of OASIS providing telecomm services, as well. If OASIS is
striving to internationalize its membership more assertively, there should not
be a penalty for calling in from countries that today have the fewest
participation. 
					
					Don Harbison
					Program Director, IBM ODF Initiative
					Business & Technical Strategy
					IBM Software Group
					tel:1-978-399-7018
					Mobile: +1-978-761-0116
					email: donald_harbison@us.ibm.com
					
					
					
					
					

					"Scott McGrath"
<scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org> 

					05/22/2006 02:22 PM 

	
To

						<Chairs@lists.oasis-open.org> 

						
					cc

						"'Barbara Erbes'"
<barbara.erbes@oasis-open.org> 

						
					Subject

						[chairs] TC Teleconference
Services questionnaire

						

	

					
	

					
					
					Reminder of the Teleconference
questionnaire.  If you have replied - thanks.  If not, here is your chance. 
					  
					Scott. 
					  
					Chairs, 
					  
					We've heard the dialogue on the Chairs
list about the problems Committee teleconference costs pose for members - both
for international participants who dial in and for member organizations who
volunteer to host calls. 
					  
					OASIS is investigating options for
funding Committee conference calls out of member dues. We have conducted a
preliminary analysis based on postings to our central events calendar,
information from our member databases, and the service quotes of several
service providers. This research indicates that the annual cost of providing
fully internationalized services for every call of every Committee, could
exceed 10% of our total operating budget (over 250,000 USD annually). 
					  
					In light of the extraordinary costs
involved, it is vital that we take the time to fully understand the
expectations and circumstances of all our Committees, so that we might
identify alternatives to manage costs while still addressing the majority of
your needs. 
					  
					To that end, we're asking a
representative of each OASIS Committee to spend five minutes answering the
following 16 questions on teleconference usage. We appreciate that in many
cases, the best you can offer is an educated guess. That's fine. Any
information you provide-even if it can't be verified by detailed tracking or
reports-will be helpful to us. 
					  
					Only one reply per TC or Sub-Committee
is needed, so please coordinate your responses with co-chairs and secretaries.

					  
					Thank you in advance for your time, 
					  
					Scott McGrath 
					Director Member Services 
					  
					  
					OASIS Committee Teleconference
Requirements Questionnaire   
					Committee Name: ODF Adoption TC 
					(If you chair more than one Committee
or Sub-Committee,  please fill out this questionnaire separately for each.) 
					About your teleconference use: 
					On average, how many teleconferences
does your Committee hold each month? (4) 
					  
					How many minutes does your average
teleconference last? (60 minutes) 
					  
					Approximately how many minutes was the
longest call your Committee held in the past year? N/A 
					  
					About your teleconference callers: 
					  
					How many callers typically participate
in your teleconferences from: 
					__5__ North America 
					__3___ Europe 
					__1___Asia 
					__0___Australia 
					_____Other 
					Do you believe the expense of
international (country-to-country) calling is a limiting factor for OASIS
Members to participate in the Committee you chair? 
					As a new TC, we do not have sufficient
experience to respond. 
					
					If so, can you cite specific examples?

					  
					  
					About your existing teleconference
support 
					  
					
					Does a member of your Committee
provide teleconference hosting? Yes. If so, which member(s)? IBM. 
					  
					If you are generally pleased with the
service your Committee uses most frequently, can you tell us the name of the
provider (and why you like them)? 
					  
					If you are not pleased with the
service your Committee uses, can you tell us the name of the provider (and why
you are dissatisfied)? 
					  
					Does the teleconference service
provide toll-free IN-COUNTRY OR INTERNATIONAL TOLL-FREE? access in some areas?

					Does your teleconference service
provide local numbers in more than one country? 
					  
					Can you offer any advice about other
services you tried and discontinued? 
					Premiere previously provided
conferencing services, but IBM now uses its own VOIP technology and has
migrated to it. 
					About future teleconference use and
support 
					  
					Given your current situation and the
impact to OASIS in doing so,  do you think OASIS should provide teleconference
services, funded by member dues?  Yes. 
					  
					If OASIS could provide only limited
resources to solve the largest problems inhibiting member participation, what
do you think reasonable bounds would be? 
					  
					Indicate your acceptance of the
following suggestions, on a scale of 1 to 5 
					(5 Meaning you would accept the idea,
1 being you would not accept the idea) 
					  
					_5__OASIS would provide international
service with in-country  dial-in for all Committees, all calls. 
					_2_OASIS would provide a local dial-in
line for the country in which the majority of Committee members reside, others
members pay their  international rates to dial-in. 
					_4_OASIS would continue to encourage
member organizations to host Committee calls and covers the costs only when a
Committee is unable to identify a host. 
					_1_OASIS would encourage Committees to
use free conferencing services (such as freeconferencecall.com) 
					_1_OASIS would not provide any
teleconference service that will have a budget impact 
					  
					  
					Any other comments or suggestions: 
					  
					  
					  
					  
					  
					  





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