Michael,
On 4/23/2010 2:17 PM, Michael Priestley wrote:
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I would definitely agree. I'm
certainly
not proposing a required approach - just hoping to see if there is
enough
interest to justify asking OASIS to support this approach at all. A
cloud-based
or web-hosted approach is simply not possible, according to the rules
of
OASIS, without OASIS providing the hosting. So although I'd love
to be doing this today with DITA, we can't unless more teams are also
interested,
enough so to justify OASIS supporting it.
Sorry, what OASIS rules require OASIS to host the solution?
Do you mean if OASIS leased a server at a remote hosting facility and
the server was maintained and serviced by the hosting facility that
would be a violation of OASIS rules? What if the software was
maintained at the direction of OASIS?
If that is the rule then it needs to be changed.
A pointer to the rule that is the problem would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Patrick
OF36201BDA.753BB080-ON8525770E.00643441-8525770E.00646C08@ca.ibm.com"
type="cite">Michael Priestley, Senior
Technical
Staff Member (STSM)
Lead IBM DITA Architect
mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
http://dita.xml.org/blog/25
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"David RR Webber \(XML\)"
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Michael
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04/23/2010 02:02 PM
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RE: [chairs] Practical
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Michael,
In principle I like the idea of hosting
solution. The world is going cloud based collaboration tools.
But as Jacques noted - this should be a
gradual transition where that value proposition sells itself - because
obviously todays desktop environment has significant strengths and
benefits
and we don't want to lose that overnight.
Thanks, DW
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [chairs] Practical considerations and impacts of mandated
editing formats /tools
From: Michael Priestley <mpriestl@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, April 22, 2010 5:49 pm
To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
I don't disagree with your conclusion - I agree with empowering TCs to
choose their own tools. I will add a wrinkle to your argument, however:
in the case of XML authoring, there is an alternative to having to
install
custom tooling, non-default plugins, etc. Go with a hosted solution
instead.
For example, we're using a DITA-based wiki within IBM to enable
developers
and other content contributors to create DITA content without
installing
a full XML toolchain. There is some training, but I don't think
substantially
more than there would be with a new Word template or other non-XML
solution,
and with even less technical overhead.
So the subject matter experts and occasional authors use a no-install,
fast-learning-curve tool, and the power users can install a full tools
chain with more power, complexity, and learning curve. The XML
underneath
doesn't care :-)
Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Lead IBM DITA Architect
mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
http://dita.xml.org/blog/25
My experience with this in the past is that this imposes an
unacceptable
barrier to the volunteers who do the hard work of actually editing and
completing the specifications.
Once you start needing to install add-ins and scripts and all kinds of
non-default pieces into editing tools things rapidly get out of
control.
What one person sees in their environment is not what someone else
has.
I always hear "well it works wonderfully for our TC" - but then
those same people are not the ones responsible for fixing your PC and
editor
and documents and providing support to your deadlines. Or working
with a TC member who is likewise being challenged sending in edits.
Training
is another issue.
I'd strongly prefer to not open this whole can of worms - and allow TCs
to continue tp decide - as now - what tools they are most comfortable
with
using for developing their specifications. If something is suggested
and provided to assist - that's fine - but that's not the same as
mandating
something.
DW
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Patrick Durusau
patrick@durusau.net
Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34
Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)
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