RE: Minutes of the tele-conference CIQ meeting held on 15 January 2001

[Karl Best <karl.best@oasis-open.org>]

Vincent:

> I also still believe aligning work
> with ebXML is very important; i.e. making clear that OASIS is already
> working on a customer profile and making sure this work is not
> duplicated by
> the ebXML core components group. Since OASIS and ebXML are related
> organizations/initiatives, I find this of higher priority than cpExchange
> which has been a difficult effort sofar. Karl, could you create any
> certainty in this area from an OASIS perspective?

Yes, I believe that coordination with ebXML is a higher priority than
coordinating with CPExchange. One is friend, the other foe :-) Let's make
sure we're not competing with friends.

Any chance that one of you can attend the ebXML meeting in Vancouver the
week of 12 Feb?

</karl>
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Karl F. Best
OASIS - Director, Technical Operations
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent Buller [mailto:vincent@and.nl]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:08 AM
> To: 'Ram Kumar'; ciq@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: Minutes of the tele-conference CIQ meeting held on 15
> January 2001
>
>
> === Please disregard previous mail - this is the full version :-) =======
>
> Hello Ram, all,
>
> thanks for distributing the minutes on short notice. However, let's kick
> some life into this list, as I haven't heard anything since!
>
> Ram, I read you updated NAML - would you care to distribute the updated
> version?
>
> John, looking forward to the document on security - I hope this
> will help us
> in addressing potential questions like the ones that CPExchange
> appeared to
> have got from a hyped US senator. I read nothing about discussion on this
> part? Has there been any? I would like to hear what other people
> think about
> the time and attention we should spend on this.
>
> I am not sure what to read in the bits about how we are
> progressing with the
> xNAL specification itself. As I see it we will simply copy and
> paste the AND
> GlobalAddress into the Mastersoft NAML to create a startingpoint for xNAL.
> In December Ram expressed the wish to verify, by making a
> comparison table,
> that everything expressed in his address format could be expressed in
> GlobalAddress. I myself am confident that this is possible, since we *are*
> processing addresses from all countries that NAML covers within
> my company.
> Also, Ram and I have actually compared our DTDs during XML2000 and we
> couldn't find any substantial differences, so for me this chapter
> is closed.
> Perhaps Ram could be more specific about the areas that he still believes
> are not covered in GlobalAddress, perhaps by sending some examples or
> sending his current draft comparison table with suspected problem areas
> highlighted?
>
> On the other hand I do recognize the need, by the time of our first draft
> xNAL release end of March, for some sample data. This is the
> timeline I have
> put forward, and since I am sure you appreciate the effort it will take to
> compile such a sample dataset, this is also the earliest that I
> can have it.
>
> What we talked about at our kickoff meeting is to make an extensible
> multilevel definition. For example, for Address this would mean that one
> should be able to markup a street as a whole (street&premise:"prinses
> julianastraat 26") or in parts (street:"prinses julianastraat",
> premise:"26"). This is a next step that we can start discussing now.
>
> I am currently converting the GlobalAddress DTD to the latest W3C schema
> definition; this allows us to be more expressive as we discussed in
> December. Ram, did you look at XML Schema and can you have a go at
> converting your specification?
>
> As for contacts with other organizations: I have a tentative meeting date
> with mr Wandt, which he has to confirm. I also still believe aligning work
> with ebXML is very important; i.e. making clear that OASIS is already
> working on a customer profile and making sure this work is not
> duplicated by
> the ebXML core components group. Since OASIS and ebXML are related
> organizations/initiatives, I find this of higher priority than cpExchange
> which has been a difficult effort sofar. Karl, could you create any
> certainty in this area from an OASIS perspective?
>
> Ram, did you hear anything from the DocBook people on the e-mail you sent
> them?
>
> Cheers,
> Vincent
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ram Kumar [mailto:rkumar@msi.com.au]
> > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:45 AM
> > To: ciq@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Cc: rkumar@msi.com.au
> > Subject: Minutes of the tele-conference CIQ meeting held on 15 January
> > 2001
> >
> >
> > MINUTES
> >
> > Attendees:  John Benett, Karl Best and Ram Kumar
> > Absentees: Vincent Buller
> >
> > Ram has updated the NAML DTD and the document with the minor
> > changes suggested during the Dec.6 meeting.
> >
> > Ram is now creating a table that will consist of NAML address elements
> > and Global address model elements. This will be helpful in integrating
> > the two models.
> >
> > The action items from the meeting are as follows:
> >
> > 1. Vincent to release an updated version of the AND Global address
> >     model document as promised in the Dec.6 meeting. This document is
> >     expected to contain many address examples that describe
> > about the tags
> >     that are defined in the model. Given that there are not enough
> > information
> >     to understand the tags and the address structure in the
> > current doc,
> >     the examples will make it easier to understand. Once this
> > is available,
> >     Ram will compile the table that matches the address
> > structures of the
> >     Global Address and NAML. This table will then be helpful
> > in integrating
> >     the two models.
> >
> > 2. Vincent to set an appointment with Mr.Wandt of CEN and
> > discuss about
> >     their plans of coming up with an XML model for addresses.
> > We need to
> >     convince Mr.Wandt's group to work closely with us which
> > will benefit
> > each groups.
> >     This is important.
> >
> > 3. Karl is waiting on Vincent to talk to Mr.Wandt before he
> > can talk to
> > CPExchange
> >     group about working closely with CIQ. If we take the
> > story of CEN's
> > interest
> >    in working with us, this will add more value when we sell
> > our story to
> > CPEXchange.
> >
> > 4. John has collected documents on P3P and other security
> > standards and will
> >    provide us a report by the beginning of Feb.2001.
> >
> >
> > NEXT CONFERENCE CALL:
> >
> > February 15, 2001 - same time as this month's call.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ram
> >
>
>