FW: OASIS and CEN (Eurpoean Standardisation Body) : PotentialCollaborative Work

[Ram Kumar <rkumar@msi.com.au>]

Title: RE: OASIS and CEN (Eurpoean Standardisation Body) : Potential Collaborative Work

Hi all

 

Response from CEN. Not promising at this stage. If you need the documents,

let me know. I will also go through the documents and see what has not been

covered in XNAL.

 

Regards

 

Ram

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Holger Wandt [mailto:h.wandt@HumanInference.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:11 PM
To: 'Ram Kumar'
Subject: RE: OASIS and CEN (Eurpoean Standardisation Body) : Potential Collaborative Work

Dear Mr Kumar,

 

We have discussed your proposal (especially during the meeting of the working group address database, since the plenary meeting wanted to know if the group shared a common view on cooperation) and, unfortunately, not all members agreed on immediate cooperation. At this moment, there are a number of other initiatives aimed at development of address interchange standards (GCA-ADIS, UN/PROLST and OASIS CIQ). It was the shared opinion of the working group that it would be benificial if these initiatives could be coordinated with the aim of developping a commonly agreed set of address component names and definitions.

It is the procedure and the timing, however, that I personally think is not contributing to a swift exchange of expertise. The meeting consented to submitting your proposal, along with the White Paper of UN/PROLST (which you will find as attachment) and the Address Data Interchange Specification of GCA (which I only have as hardcopy -so I have sent it to

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as comments in the enquiry phase of CEN/TC331/WG3. After that, there will be a formal vote on the implementation of the comments. This will approximately take till November.

As you know, that is not what I had hoped for.

I will however, with your permission, put forward the ideas of OASIS CIQ in the next meeting of the UPU POST*CODE development group. This group (which had its kick off meeting at the end April) is the result of the two USPS proposals to the UPU Standards Board on 31 January 2001. In the kick off meeting we decided to send out an inquiry to all the address experts of the 189 member countries to explain the scope of the group and to acquire address information of the specific countries. You will find a copy of the inquiry enclosed.

Allthough everything hasn't worked out exactly as I had envisioned it, I still believe that the common objectives of our work are worth coordination and alignment.

I therefore suggest that we will keep each other informed on the latest developments (see waht you think of the White Paper and of ADIS)

For now, I can only thank you for the initiative you have taken and the work you have done. I can assure you that I will continue to work towards harmonization of all the different efforts in international address standardization.

 

Best regards,

Holger Wandt

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ram Kumar [mailto:rkumar@msi.com.au]
Sent: donderdag 5 juli 2001 6:07
To: 'Holger Wandt'
Subject: RE: OASIS and CEN (Eurpoean Standardisation Body) : Potential Collaborative Work

Dear Mr.Wandt

 

How did the Plenary meeting go? What was decided about the possibility of working

closely with OASIS CIQ TC? Please advise.

 

Regards

 

Ram

-----Original Message-----
From: Holger Wandt [mailto:h.wandt@HumanInference.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:22 PM
To: 'Ram Kumar '
Subject: RE: OASIS and CEN (Eurpoean Standardisation Body) : Potential Collaborative Work

Dear Mr Kumar,

this looks quite impressive. I'll be on the road the next couple of days so I will have time to carefully read your document. I will also forward it to the members of the working group and make sure the item will be on the agenda of both the plenary and the working group meeting.

Should I have any questions or remarks while reding the document, I'll let you know.
In the meantime, I thank you for your effort and I hope the discussion within CEN will be profitable for both our groups.

Best regards,
Holger Wandt

-----Original Message-----
From: Ram Kumar
To: 'Holger Wandt'
Sent: 12-6-01 7:27
Subject: RE: OASIS and CEN (Eurpoean Standardisation Body) : Potential Collaborative Work

Dear Mr.Wandt
 
Sorry for the long silence. I have been working on the document that you
request and it is
now ready. Please find enclosed the document and please let me know
whether this should
be adequate for your discussions on June 28. Looking forward to hearing
from you. FYI,
CPExchange, OTA and XNS are now keen to collaborate with my group and
discussions
are now undeway between them and OASIS. 
 
Regards
 
Ram

-----Original Message-----
From: Holger Wandt [mailto:h.wandt@HumanInference.com]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 5:45 PM
To: 'Ram Kumar'
Subject: RE: OASIS and CEN (Eurpoean Standardisation Body) : Potential
Collaborative Work

Dear Mr Kumar,
 
I will present this question to the plenary meeting of CEN/TC331/WG3 in
June.
Before that, I would like you summarize your ideas of the actual content
of the collaboration. The members of the working group address database
must be able to give their opinion on the proposed collaboration.
In your last mail you asked me if I could give you an idea on what to
write down.
I think that will be entirely up to you, but I can give the following
suggestions: I would like to know what your wishes are, what you think
the mutual benefits will be, if you would like to use the specification
of CEN, whether you have suggestions for improvement of the existing
standard or the approach for following standards, how you think we can
incorporate the CIQ-specifications in the CEN standard, etc.
The plenary meeting will be on 28 June and the meeting of the working
group will be the next day. I hope you will be able to work with my
suggestions and provide the working group with some ideas for
discussion. As far as the formalisation of the work is concerned, I will
write a summary of what has happened so far and send it to all the
members of plenary group. I hope we will reach a decission on 28 June.
I'll let you know.
 
Best regards,
Holger Wandt
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ram Kumar [mailto:rkumar@msi.com.au]
Sent: donderdag 24 mei 2001 4:12
To: 'Holger Wandt'
Subject: RE: OASIS and CEN (Eurpoean Standardisation Body) : Potential
Collaborative Work

Dear Mr.Wandt
 
I spoke with OASIS regarding the co-operation.  OASIS just is keen to
know what sort of formal agreement
you are expecting for OASIS and yoru group to collaborate. OASIS is keen
to help achieve this. Please advise.
 
Regards
 
Ram

Another item we should discuss, is the (future) implementation of each
others work and the organisational implicatios involved. Between UPU and
CEN there is a Memorandum of Understanding that facilitates the
cooperation in the field of postal standardization. How can we fit in
OASIS?
 
Good question.  This has to be answered by OASIS and I have copied this
e-mail to Karl Best, OASIS Technical Director and
some key people in OASIS to provide an answer. OASIS has a strong
relationship with UN/CEFACT via the ebXML project. UPU
being part of UN, things should be easier. I leave it to OASIS to come
up with an answer to you regarding this

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