RE: [ciq] UBL 1.0 address handling problem

["Ram Kumar" <RKumar@msi.com.au>]

Hello Jean-Luc,

> Hello Ram,
> 
> Sorry for the confusion but this was a discussion between 
> French people.
> In short, we are saying we won't use UBL address scheme but 
> the one coming out from UN/CEFACT TBG17 working group which 
> will be more comprehensive.
> 
> By the way, could you say me more about xAL V3.0?

xAL 3.0 is part of the Customer Information Standards technical
committee of OASIS that has developed a comprehensive global name
and address specification. The work commenced in 2000 and V2.0 is
available. The specification is application independant and truly
global capable of handing addresses of all the countries in detail.

We are currently working on V3.0 of the name and address specs.
that we hope to have it released by end of Dec. 2004.

> Where is this coming from? Are specifications available?

These specs. are from OASIS CIQ TC.

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq

> It seems it has been developed inside OASIS. Any 
> harmonization with UBL ?

UBL started with CIQ address specs. Most of its examples originated
from CIQ Specs. Election and Voting services technical committee of
OASIS and few other committees also use the CIQ specs. (particularly name and
address). CIQ is a liaison member of UBL.

Can you please email me the name and address specs. from TBG17 working group?

Regards,

Ram Kumar
Chair, OASIS CIQ TC

> 
> Kind regards,
> Jean-Luc Champion
> UN/CEFACT Forum TBG Chair
> 
> e-Business Standards Development
> Av. des Pommiers, 11
> B-4053 Embourg, Belgium
> Tel: +32 496 12 99 13
> e-Mail: Jean_Luc_Champion@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Ram Kumar [mailto:RKumar@msi.com.au] Envoyé : jeudi 7 
> octobre 2004 0:38 À : Gilles BRANDEL; Jean-Luc Champion; Remy 
> Marchand Cc : Gilles BRANDEL; Samy Scemama; Pierre Faure 
> Objet : RE: [ciq] UBL 1.0 address handling problem
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can you please let me know what your message is as I do know 
> know the language you are discussing in. I am sorry about this. Thanks
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ram
> 
> Ram Kumar
> General Manager
> Software R&D and Architecture
> MSI BUSINESS SYSTEMS
> Suite 204A, 244 Beecroft Road
> Epping, NSW 2121, Australia
> Direct: +61-2-9815 0226
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> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gilles BRANDEL [mailto:Gilles.Brandel@srci.fr]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:15 PM
> > To: 'Jean-Luc Champion'; 'Remy Marchand'
> > Cc: 'Gilles BRANDEL'; 'Samy Scemama'; 'Pierre Faure'; Ram Kumar
> > Subject: RE: [ciq] UBL 1.0 address handling problem
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > de Gilles.Brandel@srci.fr
> >  
> > Pour l'adresse, on prend celle du TBG17 et non celle d'UBL.
> >  
> > 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Jean-Luc Champion [mailto:jean_luc_champion@yahoo.com]
> > Envoyé : mercredi 6 octobre 2004 14:37 À : 'Remy Marchand'
> > Cc : 'Gilles BRANDEL'; 'Samy Scemama'; 'Pierre Faure'; 'Gilles 
> > (interne)'
> > Objet : TR: [ciq] UBL 1.0 address handling problem 
> Importance : Haute
> > 
> > Intéressant de noter que "UBL 1.0 has severely restricted 
> the coverage 
> > of address formats around the world".
> > Il va falloir y faire attention dans le cadre de BoostAero.
> > 
> > Mais quelqu'un peut-il me dire d'où sort ce "xAL V3.0"?
> > De plus, il semble avoir été développé au sein d'OASIS !
> > 
> > Y aurait-il une concurrence interne ?
> > 
> > Cordialement,
> > Jean-Luc
> > 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Ram Kumar [mailto:RKumar@msi.com.au] Envoyé : mercredi 
> 6 octobre 
> > 2004
> > 9:27 À : ciq@lists.oasis-open.org Cc : Rob Beauchamp Objet : 
> > [ciq] UBL 1.0 address handling problem
> > 
> > CIQ TC,
> > 
> > I came across the following comment from Korea regarding UBL 1.0:
> > 
> > -	The Address format does not fit the one of Korea. 
> > -	If InhouseMail(11) and Department(12) within Address(2) 
> >       are used, then OrganizationName or CompanyName should be 
> >       included too because there may exist multiple organizations 
> >       within a building.
> > 
> > This is one of the many address formatting issues that UBL 
> will face 
> > as UBL 1.0 has severely restricted the coverage of address formats 
> > around the world. xAL handles the above address structure 
> comfortably.
> > 
> > I have now looking into the address examples for all countries 
> > provided by Universal Postal Union (UPU) as part of my 
> review process 
> > to verify whether the new xAL V3.0 schemas can support them
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Ram
> > 
> > Ram Kumar
> > General Manager
> > Software R&D and Architecture
> > MSI BUSINESS SYSTEMS
> > Suite 204A, 244 Beecroft Road
> > Epping, NSW 2121, Australia
> > Direct: +61-2-9815 0226
> > Mobile: +61-412 758 025
> > Fax: +61-2-98150200
> > URL: www.msi.com.au
> > 
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