RE: [ciq] Latest versions of xNL and xAL (Version 3.0.5)

[Max Voskob <max.voskob@paradise.net.nz>]

Hi guys,

I think that KnownAs should be used for multiple names.

##other doesn't have to be implemented, but if some users need to pass a couple of additional bits
of info outside of xNAL namespace they can legitimately do it and make their implementation aware of
those additions without affecting others. I thought that's the main goal of ##other.

Cheers,
Max
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ram Kumar [mailto:RKumar@msi.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:22
To: Hido Hasimbegovic; ciq@lists.oasis-open.org
Cc: Rob Beauchamp; Max Voskob
Subject: RE: [ciq] Latest versions of xNL and xAL (Version 3.0.5)

Hido,

Yes, advanced version covers it through "KnownAs".
I will think about ##other and may be the CIQ TC can vote on whether to keep it or not.

Regards,

Ram

Ram Kumar
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Software R&D and Architecture
MSI BUSINESS SYSTEMS
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 2:23 PM
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> Subject: RE: [ciq] Latest versions of xNL and xAL (Version 3.0.5)
> 
> 
> Cancel my first point, I just read the Advanced version of the schema. 
> My apologies.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hido Hasimbegovic [mailto:hido.hasimbegovic@customware.net]
> Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2004 2:16 PM
> To: 'Ram Kumar'; ciq@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: 'Rob Beauchamp'; 'Max Voskob'
> Subject: RE: [ciq] Latest versions of xNL and xAL (Version 3.0.5)
> 
> Hi All
> 
> Just reading through the xNL schema, and I came across 
> OrganisationName element. I had problem in the past with a requirement 
> to represent company's registered name along side its "Trading As" 
> name. For example, "NRMA Insurance" may trade as "IAG" and a bunch of 
> trade-marks.
> I think we should allow for multiple OrganisationName elements, where 
> Type attribute would indicate whether it is a registered name or an 
> alias.
> That is one option. The alternative is to add "Alias" element to 
> OrganisationName, same as on PersonName element.
> 
> Also from experience, "##other" elements and attributes never survive 
> implementation phase of the project. If you want to allow for other 
> namespaces to be used in the schema, this is normally seen as either 
> extending the schema itself, or merging of two or more schemas. This 
> normally occurs in point-to-point integration projects at any 
> particular touch-point. As ugly as it may seem, it's a fact of life 
> that changes will be made in schema due to implementation pressures.
> I don't think there's a good/elegant way to do this, so I'd rather not 
> have "##other" elements and attributes in the schema at all. This 
> would leave each individual implementation of the schema to figure out 
> their own customisation - which is what normally happens in any case.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Hido Hasimbegovic
> eBusiness Consultant | CustomWare Asia Pacific | www.customware.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ram Kumar [mailto:RKumar@msi.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:54 PM
> To: ciq@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: Rob Beauchamp; Max Voskob
> Subject: [ciq] Latest versions of xNL and xAL (Version 3.0.5)
> Importance: High
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Please find enclosed the latest versions of xNL and xAL.
> I have managed to produce two versions of xNL and xAL from three 
> versions.
> They are:
> - xNL Basic and xNL Advanced
> - xAL Basic and xAL Advanced
> 
> Special thanks to Max Voskob for his detailed review and useful 
> comments.
> 
> PLEASE SPARE SOME TIME TO REVIEW THE SCHEMAS AND LET ME KNOW YOUR 
> VIEWS.
> 
> 
> The schemas are very flat now that will ease the implementation. 
> xNL-Basic and xAL-Basic should be sufficient to cover most of the 
> applications using name and address data in XML. If you think that the 
> Basic schemas are complex to represent name and address data in simple 
> terms, we can always go for a the three versions of xNL and xAL.
> Your feedback is very important.
> 
> I have also reviewed the international addresses of all countries from 
> Universal Postal Union (as listed in their web
> site) against xAL
> V3.0.5
> and with whatever information was provided by UPU, I am happy to say 
> that xAL handles the addresses of the listed countries by the UPU. I 
> had to do some fine tuning to xAL to make it compatibile with 
> different address structures.
> For example, in some countries, a district is represented by a number 
> in addition to its name.
> 
> The only country that I am not clear with its address structure is:
> Cote d'Ivoire (Rep). It's address is as follows:
> 
> address 1:
> 06 B.P. 37 ABIDJAN 06
> COTE D'IVOIRE (REP.)
> 
> 06 => post office code
> B.P. 37 => Postal delivery (Post box)
> ABIDJAN => locality
> 06 => post office code
> 
> address 2:
> 17 B.P. 105 ABIDJAN 17
> COTE D'IVOIRE (REP.)
> 
> I am not sure why post office code appears twice in the address. 
> Joe, do you have any idea?
> 
> This is what UPU has to say about the postal system of this country: 
> Deliveries are made to P.O. Boxes. However, home deliveries are being 
> piloted for a single building. Items are then delivered to a set of 
> boxes on the ground floor.
> For home and P.O. Box deliveries alike, the two-digit post office code 
> must be included.
> For home deliveries, the delivery office code is preceded by a 1, to 
> show that it is a home delivery. The code 104 therefore indicates a 
> home delivery made by post office 04.
> 
> Now, I will start producing sample xml file from the UPU international 
> address examples with necessary information to XMLify the addresses.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ram
> 
> Ram Kumar
> General Manager
> Software R&D and Architecture
> MSI BUSINESS SYSTEMS
> Suite 204A, 244 Beecroft Road
> Epping, NSW 2121, Australia
> Direct: +61-2-9815 0226
> Mobile: +61-412 758 025
> Fax: +61-2-98150200
> URL: www.msi.com.au
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