RE: OASIS RE : Global and application independent "Name and Address XML Specification" from OASIS

["Ram Kumar" <RKumar@msi.com.au>]

Hi,

The work we are doing at OASIS on name and address data is NOT for
any commerical purpose. As you are aware, OASIS is an international
standards consortium that developes vertical and horizontal XML industry
standards.

The whole idea of using UPU sample addresses is to demonstrate the
capability of the xAL address specification to handle international
addresses and NOT for any commerical benefits. Under this case, do 
we still need to pay USD 95 to use the sample addresses? 

Please advise.

Regards,

Ram Kumar

Chair, OASIS CIQ TC

General Manager
Software R&D and Architecture
MSI BUSINESS SYSTEMS
Suite 204A, 244 Beecroft Road
Epping, NSW 2121, Australia
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HAUSS, luc [mailto:luc.hauss@upu.int] On Behalf Of PostCode
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:38 AM
> To: Ram Kumar
> Cc: STANT, jelto; PIOTROWSKI, piotr; VIVAS, patricia
> Subject: OASIS RE : Global and application independent "Name 
> and Address XML Specification" from OASIS
> 
> Dear Mr. Ram Kumar,
> 
> Thank you for your message to Mr. Jelto Stant and for asking 
> the approval to use our addressing information.
> 
> 
> 1.	OK 
> You have our agreement to use our address examples contained 
> in our "Postal Addressing Systems", exclusively limited to 
> your testing, development and demonstrating purposes for your 
> V3.0 release from xAL.
> 
> 
> 2.	IF
> As this publication is under copyright, we agree under the 
> condition you take one license for this publication at 125 
> Swiss Francs (<> USD 95) for your demonstrating purposes.
> You may order at :   publications@upu.int
> Or via our website at: 
> http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/postal_addressing_systems.shtml
> 
> 
> 3.	LATER
> For any commercial usage, please contact us (publication 
> information built in your xAL product).
> 
> 
> 4.	Universal POST*CODE DataBase
> This publication completes the Universal POST*CODE DataBase, 
> a world database of postcodes converted into the same format, 
> updated quarterly and which is easy to integrate into your 
> applications or address checking and correction software.
> May I invite you to discover this database (information, 
> updates, data level by country, customers, free sample DB and 
> structure description):
> http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/universal_postcode_database.shtml
> 
> For an offer tailored to your needs (in-house or commercial), 
> let me know the exact usage and the countries or geographical 
> region with interest for your products and services.
> 
> 
> 
> Don't hesitate and contact me for any further information need.
> I will be out of office (DMA, USA + AIMED, USA) until 2nd of 
> Nov. 2004.
> Kind regards from Switzerland.
> Luc
> 
> Universal Postal Union (UPU)
> POST*CODE
> Attn. Mr. Luc HAUSS
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> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : STANT, jelto
> Envoyé : lundi, 11. octobre 2004 11:42
> À : PostCode
> Objet : FW: Global and application independent "Name and 
> Address XML Specification" from OASIS Importance : Haute
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Please see the message below.
> Any suggestions on how we should react ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jelto 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ram Kumar [mailto:RKumar@msi.com.au]
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:47 AM
> To: STANT, jelto
> Subject: RE: Global and application independent "Name and 
> Address XML Specification" from OASIS
> Importance: High
> 
> Hi Stant,
> 
> If you can recollect, we communicated about a year ago.
> Here at OASIS Customer Information Technical Committee, we 
> are working on the release of the next version (Version 3.0) 
> of xAL (extensible Address Language). xAL V2.0 (released in 
> July 2002) handles addresses of almost every country in 
> greater detail and is an application independent language 
> that can be used/extended for use in various applications 
> such as CRM, Customer recognition, customer registration, 
> customer information systems, data quality management, postal 
> services, etc.
> 
> As part of V3.0 release, we intend to use all the 
> international address examples provided by the UPU web site 
> http://www.upu.org/post_code/en/postal_addressing_systems_memb
> er_countries.shtml
> to demostrate the power of xAL. 
> 
> We will righly acknowledge UPU in all our documents. 
> 
> We therefore, seek your approval to use your address examples. 
> 
> If there are any issues with this, please let us know.
> 
> Looking forward to hearing from you
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ram Kumar
> Founding Chair,
> OASIS CIQ TC
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq
> 
> General Manager
> Software R&D and Architecture
> MSI BUSINESS SYSTEMS
> Suite 204A, 244 Beecroft Road
> Epping, NSW 2121, Australia
> Direct: +61-2-9815 0226
> Mobile: +61-412 758 025
> Fax: +61-2-98150200
> URL: www.msi.com.au 
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stant Jelto [mailto:jelto.stant@upu.int]
> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:08 PM
> > To: Ram Kumar; Stant Jelto
> > Cc: CH (Douane) -Vuilleumier, François; clivio@iso.org; Gray Steve; 
> > Betremieux Christine; rberwanger@bTrade.com; 
> diskray@w150.aone.net.au; 
> > sue.probert@dial.pipex.com; michael.doran@cern.ch; 
> > Jean-Luc@Champion.Name; jean-luc.delcourt@cec.eu.int; 
> > Paul-Herve.Theunissen@cec.eu.int; heinz.engi@ezv.admin.ch; 
> > josef.schoebi@ezv.admin.ch; bernhard.spahr@ezv.admin.ch; 
> > samuel.kobel@ezv.admin.ch; jon.bosak@sun.com; mcrawfor@lmi.org
> > Subject: RE: Global "Name and Address XML Standard" for OASIS
> > 
> > Dear Mr. Kumar,
> > 
> > Thank you for your message. I believe that you provide lots 
> of useful 
> > and important information for our Addressing project (the so-called 
> > POST*Code group). There seems to be a clear need to 
> coordinate this as 
> > best as we can.
> > 
> > I will pass your message on to the group, and hope to be able to 
> > provide you with a reaction from their part soon.
> > 
> > Thanks once more, and hopefully I'll be back with more info in the 
> > near future.
> > 
> > Jelto Stant
> > Manager, Standards Development & Support Universal Postal Union
> > 
> > Tel: +41 31 3503 244
> > Fax: +41 31 3503 110
> > Internet: www.upu.int
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ram Kumar [mailto:rkumar@msi.com.au]
> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:11 AM
> > To: jelto.stant@upu.int
> > Cc: fvuille@attglobal.net; clivio@iso.org; steve.gray@upu.int; 
> > christine.betremieux@upu.int; rberwanger@bTrade.com; 
> > diskray@w150.aone.net.au; sue.probert@dial.pipex.com; 
> > michael.doran@cern.ch; Jean-Luc@Champion.Name; 
> > jean-luc.delcourt@cec.eu.int; Paul-Herve.Theunissen@cec.eu.int; 
> > heinz.engi@ezv.admin.ch; josef.schoebi@ezv.admin.ch; 
> > bernhard.spahr@ezv.admin.ch; samuel.kobel@ezv.admin.ch; 
> > jon.bosak@sun.com; mcrawfor@lmi.org
> > Subject: Global "Name and Address XML Standard" for OASIS
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > My name is Ram Kumar and I am the founding Chairman of Customer 
> > Information Technical Committee of OASIS. We spent over 3 years 
> > developing a global name and address standard in XML and we have 
> > released the standard that is widely used around the world 
> for various 
> > name and address applications.
> > The standards
> > are:
> > extensible Name Language (xNL), and
> > extensible Address Language (xAL).
> > 
> > Details of these standards are in:
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq/ciq.html
> > 
> > A customer could be a person or an organisation. An 
> organisation can 
> > be private, public, not-for-profit, association, school, 
> university, 
> > group, etc.
> > 
> > These standards can be used as a base representation to support any 
> > name and address application such as postal services. It has been 
> > proven and widely tested to support
> > 240+ country names and addresses at an abstract to a detailed
> > level for various applications such as name and address parsing to 
> > name and address validation and correction. Sooner a Java 
> library will 
> > be released that will enable users to take this Java APIs 
> that process 
> > these standards.
> > 
> > Couple of years ago when CEN (WG331) was at a proposal stage to 
> > develop an XML name and address standard under the chairmanship of 
> > Mr.Holger Wandt, my committee took the proposal and showed 
> how these 
> > standards are a superset of what was being proposed. We 
> requested the 
> > group to take these base standards and extend it to meet their 
> > specific requirement. Though there was agreement to our 
> > recommendation, they decided to develop their own.
> > 
> > We as a committee are very keen to work with any group and 
> extend our 
> > standards to accommodate any requirements.
> > 
> > Our committee is also in liaison with UBL who have taken 
> our address 
> > standard as part of their core library. Other OASIS 
> committees such as 
> > Tax, eGovernment and Election and Voting services are keen on our 
> > standards. The UK Government and the New Zealand Government have 
> > already adopted our standards.
> > The NSW Government of Australia is also close to taking our 
> standards.
> > 
> > All we are requesting here is to give serious consideration 
> to these 
> > standards before developing another XML standard for name 
> and address 
> > representation. We are willing to cooperate with any standard 
> > committee or bodies.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > 
> > Ram
> > Chair, OASIS CIQ TC
> > 
> > Ram Kumar
> > General Manager - Development & Architecture MSI Suite A204,
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