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Subject: Re: [ciq] RE: OASIS RE : Global and application independent "Nameand Address XML Specification" from OASIS
Ram, Also - we probably have members of UPU that are also members of OASIS. I'm sure members probably have access to the standards directly. DW ====================================================== Ram Kumar wrote: >Hi, > >The work we are doing at OASIS on name and address data is NOT for >any commerical purpose. As you are aware, OASIS is an international >standards consortium that developes vertical and horizontal XML industry >standards. > >The whole idea of using UPU sample addresses is to demonstrate the >capability of the xAL address specification to handle international >addresses and NOT for any commerical benefits. Under this case, do >we still need to pay USD 95 to use the sample addresses? > >Please advise. > >Regards, > >Ram Kumar > >Chair, OASIS CIQ TC > >General Manager >Software R&D and Architecture >MSI BUSINESS SYSTEMS >Suite 204A, 244 Beecroft Road >Epping, NSW 2121, Australia >Direct: +61-2-9815 0226 >Mobile: +61-412 758 025 >Fax: +61-2-98150200 >URL: www.msi.com.au > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: HAUSS, luc [mailto:luc.hauss@upu.int] On Behalf Of PostCode >>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:38 AM >>To: Ram Kumar >>Cc: STANT, jelto; PIOTROWSKI, piotr; VIVAS, patricia >>Subject: OASIS RE : Global and application independent "Name >>and Address XML Specification" from OASIS >> >>Dear Mr. Ram Kumar, >> >>Thank you for your message to Mr. Jelto Stant and for asking >>the approval to use our addressing information. >> >> >>1. OK >>You have our agreement to use our address examples contained >>in our "Postal Addressing Systems", exclusively limited to >>your testing, development and demonstrating purposes for your >>V3.0 release from xAL. >> >> >>2. IF >>As this publication is under copyright, we agree under the >>condition you take one license for this publication at 125 >>Swiss Francs (<> USD 95) for your demonstrating purposes. >>You may order at : publications@upu.int >>Or via our website at: >>http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/postal_addressing_systems.shtml >> >> >>3. LATER >>For any commercial usage, please contact us (publication >>information built in your xAL product). >> >> >>4. Universal POST*CODE DataBase >>This publication completes the Universal POST*CODE DataBase, >>a world database of postcodes converted into the same format, >>updated quarterly and which is easy to integrate into your >>applications or address checking and correction software. >>May I invite you to discover this database (information, >>updates, data level by country, customers, free sample DB and >>structure description): >>http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/universal_postcode_database.shtml >> >>For an offer tailored to your needs (in-house or commercial), >>let me know the exact usage and the countries or geographical >>region with interest for your products and services. >> >> >> >>Don't hesitate and contact me for any further information need. >>I will be out of office (DMA, USA + AIMED, USA) until 2nd of >>Nov. 2004. >>Kind regards from Switzerland. >>Luc >> >>Universal Postal Union (UPU) >>POST*CODE >>Attn. Mr. Luc HAUSS >>P.O. Box >>3000 BERNE 15 >>SWITZERLAND >> >>Ph. +41 31 350 35 59 >>Fx. +41 31 350 31 10 >>E_mail postcode@upu.int >>Web www.upu.int >> >>Visit us: >>- Bern, Switzerland, >>- The DMA Annual Conference & Exhibition, New Orleans, LA, >>USA, (17-19 Oct. 2004, stand 1957) >>http://www.the-dma.org/cgi/mtdsp?meeting=ANN0105 >>- The AIMED Conference, St. Louis, MO, USA, (21-24 Oct. 2004) >>http://www.aimedweb.org/ >> >> >> >>-----Message d'origine----- >>De : STANT, jelto >>Envoyé : lundi, 11. octobre 2004 11:42 >>À : PostCode >>Objet : FW: Global and application independent "Name and >>Address XML Specification" from OASIS Importance : Haute >> >>Hi all, >> >>Please see the message below. >>Any suggestions on how we should react ? >> >>Thanks. >> >>Jelto >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ram Kumar [mailto:RKumar@msi.com.au] >>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:47 AM >>To: STANT, jelto >>Subject: RE: Global and application independent "Name and >>Address XML Specification" from OASIS >>Importance: High >> >>Hi Stant, >> >>If you can recollect, we communicated about a year ago. >>Here at OASIS Customer Information Technical Committee, we >>are working on the release of the next version (Version 3.0) >>of xAL (extensible Address Language). xAL V2.0 (released in >>July 2002) handles addresses of almost every country in >>greater detail and is an application independent language >>that can be used/extended for use in various applications >>such as CRM, Customer recognition, customer registration, >>customer information systems, data quality management, postal >>services, etc. >> >>As part of V3.0 release, we intend to use all the >>international address examples provided by the UPU web site >>http://www.upu.org/post_code/en/postal_addressing_systems_memb >>er_countries.shtml >>to demostrate the power of xAL. >> >>We will righly acknowledge UPU in all our documents. >> >>We therefore, seek your approval to use your address examples. >> >>If there are any issues with this, please let us know. >> >>Looking forward to hearing from you >> >>Thank you >> >>Regards, >> >>Ram Kumar >>Founding Chair, >>OASIS CIQ TC >>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq >> >>General Manager >>Software R&D and Architecture >>MSI BUSINESS SYSTEMS >>Suite 204A, 244 Beecroft Road >>Epping, NSW 2121, Australia >>Direct: +61-2-9815 0226 >>Mobile: +61-412 758 025 >>Fax: +61-2-98150200 >>URL: www.msi.com.au >> >> >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Stant Jelto [mailto:jelto.stant@upu.int] >>>Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:08 PM >>>To: Ram Kumar; Stant Jelto >>>Cc: CH (Douane) -Vuilleumier, François; clivio@iso.org; Gray Steve; >>>Betremieux Christine; rberwanger@bTrade.com; >>> >>> >>diskray@w150.aone.net.au; >> >> >>>sue.probert@dial.pipex.com; michael.doran@cern.ch; >>>Jean-Luc@Champion.Name; jean-luc.delcourt@cec.eu.int; >>>Paul-Herve.Theunissen@cec.eu.int; heinz.engi@ezv.admin.ch; >>>josef.schoebi@ezv.admin.ch; bernhard.spahr@ezv.admin.ch; >>>samuel.kobel@ezv.admin.ch; jon.bosak@sun.com; mcrawfor@lmi.org >>>Subject: RE: Global "Name and Address XML Standard" for OASIS >>> >>>Dear Mr. Kumar, >>> >>>Thank you for your message. I believe that you provide lots >>> >>> >>of useful >> >> >>>and important information for our Addressing project (the so-called >>>POST*Code group). There seems to be a clear need to >>> >>> >>coordinate this as >> >> >>>best as we can. >>> >>>I will pass your message on to the group, and hope to be able to >>>provide you with a reaction from their part soon. >>> >>>Thanks once more, and hopefully I'll be back with more info in the >>>near future. >>> >>>Jelto Stant >>>Manager, Standards Development & Support Universal Postal Union >>> >>>Tel: +41 31 3503 244 >>>Fax: +41 31 3503 110 >>>Internet: www.upu.int >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Ram Kumar [mailto:rkumar@msi.com.au] >>>Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:11 AM >>>To: jelto.stant@upu.int >>>Cc: fvuille@attglobal.net; clivio@iso.org; steve.gray@upu.int; >>>christine.betremieux@upu.int; rberwanger@bTrade.com; >>>diskray@w150.aone.net.au; sue.probert@dial.pipex.com; >>>michael.doran@cern.ch; Jean-Luc@Champion.Name; >>>jean-luc.delcourt@cec.eu.int; Paul-Herve.Theunissen@cec.eu.int; >>>heinz.engi@ezv.admin.ch; josef.schoebi@ezv.admin.ch; >>>bernhard.spahr@ezv.admin.ch; samuel.kobel@ezv.admin.ch; >>>jon.bosak@sun.com; mcrawfor@lmi.org >>>Subject: Global "Name and Address XML Standard" for OASIS >>>Importance: High >>> >>>Hi, >>> >>>My name is Ram Kumar and I am the founding Chairman of Customer >>>Information Technical Committee of OASIS. We spent over 3 years >>>developing a global name and address standard in XML and we have >>>released the standard that is widely used around the world >>> >>> >>for various >> >> >>>name and address applications. >>>The standards >>>are: >>>extensible Name Language (xNL), and >>>extensible Address Language (xAL). >>> >>>Details of these standards are in: >>>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq/ciq.html >>> >>>A customer could be a person or an organisation. An >>> >>> >>organisation can >> >> >>>be private, public, not-for-profit, association, school, >>> >>> >>university, >> >> >>>group, etc. >>> >>>These standards can be used as a base representation to support any >>>name and address application such as postal services. It has been >>>proven and widely tested to support >>>240+ country names and addresses at an abstract to a detailed >>>level for various applications such as name and address parsing to >>>name and address validation and correction. Sooner a Java >>> >>> >>library will >> >> >>>be released that will enable users to take this Java APIs >>> >>> >>that process >> >> >>>these standards. >>> >>>Couple of years ago when CEN (WG331) was at a proposal stage to >>>develop an XML name and address standard under the chairmanship of >>>Mr.Holger Wandt, my committee took the proposal and showed >>> >>> >>how these >> >> >>>standards are a superset of what was being proposed. We >>> >>> >>requested the >> >> >>>group to take these base standards and extend it to meet their >>>specific requirement. Though there was agreement to our >>>recommendation, they decided to develop their own. >>> >>>We as a committee are very keen to work with any group and >>> >>> >>extend our >> >> >>>standards to accommodate any requirements. >>> >>>Our committee is also in liaison with UBL who have taken >>> >>> >>our address >> >> >>>standard as part of their core library. Other OASIS >>> >>> >>committees such as >> >> >>>Tax, eGovernment and Election and Voting services are keen on our >>>standards. The UK Government and the New Zealand Government have >>>already adopted our standards. >>>The NSW Government of Australia is also close to taking our >>> >>> >>standards. >> >> >>>All we are requesting here is to give serious consideration >>> >>> >>to these >> >> >>>standards before developing another XML standard for name >>> >>> >>and address >> >> >>>representation. We are willing to cooperate with any standard >>>committee or bodies. >>> >>>Kind regards, >>> >>>Ram >>>Chair, OASIS CIQ TC >>> >>>Ram Kumar >>>General Manager - Development & Architecture MSI Suite A204, >>>244 Beecroft Road Epping, NSW 2121, AUSTRALIA Switch : +61 2 >>>9815 0200 Direct : +61 2 9815 0226 >>>Fax : +61 2 9815 0299 >>>Mobile : +61 (0)412 758 025 >>>Web : http://www.msi.com.au >>> >>>"Information is The Business" >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Confidentiality and Privilege Notice >>>This is confidential and may contain legally privileged >>> >>> >>information. >> >> >>>Any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this email by any >>>party other than the intended recipient is a breach of >>>confidentiality. >>> >>>If you have received this email in error, please delete it >>> >>> >>and notify >> >> >>>MSI immediately by telephone or email. >>> >>> >>> >>> > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ciq/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > >
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