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Subject: RE: [ciq] Use of OASIS code list specs. in CIQ TC V3.0?
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Subject: Re: [ciq] Use of OASIS code list specs. in CIQ TC V3.0?
From: Ram Kumar <ram.kumar@oasis-open.org>
Date: Mon, April 16, 2007 5:05 pm
To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: Max Voskob <max.voskob@paradise.net.nz>, "Bruehlmeier,David"
<david.bruehlmeier@sap.com>, David Bruehlmeier <typo3@bruehlmeier.com>,
ciq@lists.oasis-open.orgDavid, No, we do not want to tell then what codelists they can use. The suggestion is whether to use the XML schema provided by Code list group to "represent" the code lists. The codelists could be industry ones or specific ones of the users. But they should be represented using the codelist representation schema provided by Codelist group. This is my thought. A way of representing the codelists using an industry standard. Ram David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > Ram, > > So the idea is to suggest some codelists that can be used? E.g. the > ISO country codes and W3C language codes? > > So the use case is just "hinting" for implementers? > > DW > > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [ciq] Use of OASIS code list specs. in CIQ TC V3.0? > From: Ram Kumar <ram.kumar@oasis-open.org> > Date: Mon, April 16, 2007 4:39 pm > To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info> > Cc: Ram Kumar <kumar.sydney@gmail.com>, Max Voskob > <max.voskob@paradise.net.nz>, "Bruehlmeier,David" > <david.bruehlmeier@sap.com>, David Bruehlmeier > <typo3@bruehlmeier.com>, ciq@lists.oasis-open.org > > Right David. They do not describe the codelists (e.g. country codes, > etc...). > The define the metadata to use the codelists. So, I was wondering whether > we need to use this metadata schema in CIQ to ensure consistent use of > codelists by users. > > Regards, > > Ram > From San Diego, OASIS Symposium > > David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > > Ram, > > > > Now I'm confused. They explicitly say in their charter that they are > > NOT doing that. > > > > If this has been reversed - then its a very bad issue. > > > > I think this may be confusing here however. The schema may be to > > describe metadata about the codelists - NOT the actual codelists > > themselves. > > > > DW > > > > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [ciq] Use of OASIS code list specs. in CIQ TC V3.0? > > From: "Ram Kumar" <kumar.sydney@gmail.com <#Compose>> > > Date: Mon, April 16, 2007 1:59 pm > > To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info <#Compose>> > > Cc: "Max Voskob" <max.voskob@paradise.net.nz <#Compose>>, "Bruehlmeier,David" > > <david.bruehlmeier@sap.com <#Compose>>, "David Bruehlmeier" > > <typo3@bruehlmeier.com <#Compose>>, ciq@lists.oasis-open.org <#Compose> > > > > David, > > > > The code list TC have defined an XML schema to represent the code > > lists. This > > is what I was thinking about. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ram > > > > > > On 4/17/07, *David RR Webber (XML)* <david@drrw.info <#Compose> > > <mailto:david@drrw.info <#Compose>>> wrote: > > > > Ram, > > > > My understanding is that the codelists spec's are merely > > guidelines. There are NO formal XML formats. > > > > Therefore - in terms of CIQ schema - I'd say there is probably > > "no action needed". > > > > Notice however that implementers using CIQ may use codelists - > > typically ISO ones for country codes, language codes, and > > such, and then in-country postal authorities for ZIP and > > postal codes, etc. > > > > I believe that the OASIS code list spec's make reference to > > just such "authoritative domain sources" (as does OASIS BCM) - > > and hence - so long as CIQ is providing the means to support > > those - I'm not sure there is more to be done at this point - > > except note that the OASIS codelist guidelines can be > > referenced in support of CIQ. > > > > Certainly I'd not anticipate any schema changes for V3.0 CIQ. > > > > In OASIS CAM we have an <Extension> mechanism for handling > > codelists - and for the UBL samples of CAM templates we > > provide samples of various ISO and W3C codelist values lookups > > to illustrate the techniques. Those lookups are actually > > against the CIQ v2 schema content inside UBL of course! Same > > thing for OASIS EML and their CIQ imports. We could point > > people at those UBL examples for samples of using codelists > > and CIQ - http://xml.coverpages.org/freeb-ubl-Announce.html > > > > Cheers, DW > > > > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [ciq] Use of OASIS code list specs. in CIQ TC > V3.0? > > From: "Ram Kumar" < kumar.sydney@gmail.com <#Compose> > > <mailto:kumar.sydney@gmail.com <#Compose>>> > > Date: Mon, April 16, 2007 12:31 pm > > To: ciq@lists.oasis-open.org <#Compose> > <mailto:ciq@lists.oasis-open.org <#Compose>> > > Cc: "Max Voskob" <max.voskob@paradise.net.nz <#Compose> > > <mailto:max.voskob@paradise.net.nz <#Compose>>>, "James Bryce Clark" > > < jamie.clark@oasis-open.org <#Compose> > > <mailto:jamie.clark@oasis-open.org <#Compose>>>, "Mary McRae" > > <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <#Compose> > > <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <#Compose>>>, "Bruehlmeier, David" > > <david.bruehlmeier@sap.com <#Compose> > > <mailto:david.bruehlmeier@sap.com <#Compose>>>, "David Bruehlmeier" > > < typo3@bruehlmeier.com <#Compose> <mailto:typo3@bruehlmeier.com <#Compose>>> > > > > CIQ TC, > > > > Just wondering whether we should implement OASIS CODE LIST > > V1.0 specs (to be released in May 2007) > > as part of V3.0 CIQ Specs given that we have not yet > > released V3.0 for public review. > > > > Please let me know your views > > > > Regards, > > > > Ram > > Chair > > > > > > -- > Ram Kumar > Manager - Technical Committee Development > OASIS > Post Office Box 455 > Billerica,MA 0821 > USA > +61 412 758 025 (Direct) > + 1 978 667 5115 (OASIS HQ) > + 1 978 667 5114 (Fax) > ram.kumar@oasis-open.org <#Compose> > http://www.oasis-open.org <http://www.oasis-open.org/> > "Advancing e-Business Standards Since 1993" > > > -- Ram Kumar Manager - Technical Committee Development OASIS Post Office Box 455 Billerica,MA 0821 USA +61 412 758 025 (Direct) + 1 978 667 5115 (OASIS HQ) + 1 978 667 5114 (Fax) ram.kumar@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org "Advancing e-Business Standards Since 1993"
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