Fwd: Request for help...

[Ram Kumar <kumar.sydney@gmail.com>]

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From: Ram Kumar <kumar.sydney@gmail.com>
Date: 16 December 2011 22:56
Subject: Re: Request for help...
To: "Underhill, Simon J" <Simon.Underhill@uk.bp.com>

Hi Simon,

 

On 16 December 2011 22:00, Underhill, Simon J <Simon.Underhill@uk.bp.com> wrote:

Hello there Ram – Hope all is well.

 

Firstly thank you for your previous note. Since then I have got a lot closer to the CIQ specs and we hoping to use the CIQ specification as a base for a canonical customer model within our organisation (eventually growing this to cover all business parties). This is both a major challenge for us, as well as a vital piece of work with a vast number of applications that use this data with all data management issues that it involves.

 

One question I did have with the spec is around the relationships container in the xPIL schema. In this container there are a number of sub-elements that hold, Name, Address, Contact numbers etc…. What I was really looking to do was just include a reference in this container (for a given party) to other specific Parties and then define the relationships to them. Is this something that I am missing or is this designed in a different way?

Good question! So, what you are trying to do is define all parties separately and use references to create relationships between parties. What this schema does is defines a party in detail and all its relationships with other parties (details of the parties). Hmmm.....may be use the #other attribute to define your reference. Or, you may have to extend the schema to include an attribute to have this reference ID.

 

I am a bit of a newbie to XML so please forgive any ignorance I may have, but would really appreciate if you could give me a steer.

 

Many Thanks in advance

Simon

 

Regards,

Ram

 

From: Ram Kumar [mailto:kumar.sydney@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 November 2011 19:03

To: Underhill, Simon J
Subject: Re: Request for help...

 

Hi Simon,

Unfortunately, I do not have any material explaining CIQ as a data model for party MDM. The materials I have are confidential to some organisations and I cannot share them.

There are plenty of articles on the web introducing MDM and you could use them as the basis to explain MDM and use CIQ as a reference to show how Party data could be represented. 

I am sorry that I am unable to add more value.

Regards,

Ram Kumar

(sent from a mobile device)

On 24/11/2011, at 0:53, "Underhill, Simon J" <Simon.Underhill@uk.bp.com> wrote:

Thanks for the reply Ram. Have continued to dig into this, and we are hoping to use this as the baseline model for our Customer/Party modelling.

 

Just wondering if you have any good examples for this kind of thing that we could use to test our approach and thinking?

 

Many Thanks

Simon

 

From: Ram Kumar [mailto:kumar.sydney@gmail.com]
Sent: 15 November 2011 10:24
To: Underhill, Simon J
Subject: Re: Request for help...

 

Hi Simon,

 

CIQ specifications are a good place to start for "party master data management" and customer is a type of party. Let me see whether I can dig out any material. But you do not need a material specific to CIQ to explain this. Any MDM focussing on party/customer could be used top explain the concept with implementation of the data model for customer/party being the CIQ.

 

Regards,

 

Ram

Chair, OASIS CIQ TC

On 14 November 2011 19:59, Underhill, Simon J <Simon.Underhill@uk.bp.com> wrote:

Hi Kumar,

Have stumbled across the CIQ whilst doing some research for a bit of work I am piloting. I have been asked to do a bit of investigation into the benefits of developing a canonical data model for Customer Master Data, that would hold true for a number of very independent business units that sit within our parent company. Whilst there is some integration between the applications that sit within each business unit, there is little sharing of this master data between different applications between business units. This is often because the overlap between business units is minimal and managed by exception where it does exist.

 

There feels like there is value in developing a common model, and from what I have seen, CIQ seems to be a great place to start.

 

Before I found it we were looking to develop a Conceptual data model and expand this into a logical data model for Customer Master data. Do you have any material that might help to articulate the use of the CIQ in this context?

 

Hope you can help.

 

Best Regards

Simon

 

Simon Underhill

Strategy & Planning Analyst

R&M IT&S - Strategy, Architecture & Planning Team

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