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Subject: Re: [cmis] Considering use cases for relationships in CMIS


ECM typically exposes three basic modelling constructs to its end-users: documents, folders and relationships. ECM providers also expose more modeling constructs such as a generic object holding only metadata. However, those other modeling constructs (to my knowledge) are not consistent enough across vendors for standardization.

globalUniqueName was added, I believe, to type definitions and property definitions. As such it should be on all types and properties.

-Al

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From:

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@greenbytes.de>

To:

David Pitfield <david.pitfield@oracle.com>

Cc:

CMIS List <cmis@lists.oasis-open.org>

Date:

05/26/2009 08:56 AM

Subject:

Re: [cmis] Considering use cases for relationships in CMIS





David,

thanks for the feedback.

Two comments...:

> - As independent objects, they can be created, updated, and deleted by
> users who don't have privileges to update either of the related
> objects.  They have have their own lifespan, policies, and audit history.

So why are relations special, and not just generic documents that happen
to have a source and a destination property?

> You raise the issue of relationship types being opaque to the
> application.  Wouldn't we have the same issue if we replaced
> "relationship types" with "relationship names"?  In either case,
> wouldn't there need to be a registry of types/names, in order to agree
> on semantics?  (Some core types/names might be specified by CMIS, as
> we're contemplating for thumbnail/preview.)

Standardizing relation semantics sounds like what the Semantic Web
community is doing. There are using URI-based extensibility for relation
names, and ontologies to describe how relations relate to each other
(sorry for the lame terminology :-) . I thought that's why we added the
globallyUniqueName property to the type system -- did we miss adding it
to relations?


BR, Julian


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