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Subject: RE: [courtfiling-reqts] Feedback on Blue use cases: general


Again, unfortunately I cannot attend today's meeting.  I think the challenge that Scott puts in front of us is how do we get clarity and also move along in our attempt to meet the meaningful target dates.  There is no doubt in my mind that the target dates are meaningful and critical to the success of this effort.  If we do not meet them, I fear we will lose the support of the court community as represented by their professional organizations.

 

Getting court filing in blue functionally wrong or functionally unexplainable from any RFP writers standpoint would be as more far more devastating.

 

I would recommend, that we continue with our plans for the technical committee meeting next week, where we will begin focusing on design.  But, when I say that we are focusing on design we are setting the framework and assigning responsibilities for design work.  I further recommend that we use the published draft of the requirements that will come out as a result of today's meeting as the baseline for the design discussions.

 

I firmly believe, that one more pass of this document taking into account all the good comments received including Scot' as will leave this in a better position for getting the design right.  The challenge, will be finding the resources to do this last pass.

 

Please see my comments below.

 

 

Regards,

Don

Donald L. Bergeron
Systems Designer
LexisNexis
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From: Scott Came [mailto:scott@justiceintegration.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:06 PM
To: courtfiling-reqts@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [courtfiling-reqts] Feedback on Blue use cases: general

 

I have some comments on wd-LegalXML-Requirements-08 (April 4, 2005).

Before I get into them, let me echo the sentiment of previous reviewers that this document (and the work and emerging consensus behind it) will become a good foundation for the Blue electronic court filing specification. I appreciate the hard work of all who have contributed to getting it this far.

Also, I have not been as engaged in the development of the document as I would have liked. I have attempted to get through all the comments made on the list, but I was not at the SLC face-to-face, and so if any of these comments are contrary to consensus reached there, please let me know and I will revise or withdraw them.

In general terms, I am in agreement with a couple of points that I took away from posts by Shane and Rex, specifically:

* There are some sections of the document more mature than others, and therefore some areas are ready for moving forward while others likely need more work
* In many ways the document gets into too many implementation (white-box) issues

Also, my own general observations are:

* Echoing a comment by Roger (but with a more technical perspective), I think it would be helpful in general to define some of our technical terms better. Terms like "MDE" and "non-functional requirement", and use case terminology would benefit from clear definition[Bergeron]  agree
* In general, I find the use cases fairly difficult to read and follow (perhaps I am representative of a reader who hasn't been as engaged in the discussions around previous drafts, and am therefore a good usability test case). I think we should select and define a use case form, and stick with it everywhere. I would suggest that we not invent one...rather, we should use something like Alistair Cockburn's use case guidelines (which is probably as close to a documented and accepted best practice as we're going to get.)

Some specific form issues that I believe would help usability are:

1. Define actors separately, in a separate section, rather than defining them in each use case (the use case should just name the actor)

2. Clearly define a system-under-design in each use case (Cockburn calls this "scope"), even if it is the same in every use case. This is critical. An example is 4.1.1 (line 729), "Submit Filing using Filing MDE". Is there another way to submit a filing? On line 731, we have a "filer's process"...what is that? In step 1 of the MSS, we have "filer sends a Filing Message to the Filing MDE, which sends the message to the Clerk Review MDE." So, what is the thing in scope here: the Filing MDE or Clerk Review MDE? These use cases--whether for the "efiling system" as a whole, or specific MDEs--are requirements that implementers will want to implement in their products (or courts will want to put into their RFPs.) The "efiling system" use cases will be of only contextual value to the implementer who just wants to specialize in one MDE (or component...sorry); some of the MDE use cases may be irrelevant to the vendor (or court) interested in selling (or buying) a single, monolithic solution. There is a need for both kinds of requirements--we agreed on that in December; we should just be more specific in naming what the scope of each use case is, so it's clear to the implementer (or buyer) what the requirement applies to.[Bergeron]  I agree.  The system under design construct, in the assignment to each use case is important for readability.

3. Define the "type" attribute of each use case, and define all allowable values[Bergeron]  please define what you are specifically meaning by type

4. Minimum guarantee should not be optional or conditional[Bergeron]  What I'm hearing you say he is for example: that if a filer files to a court in minimum guarantee of a receipt from that court cannot be a minimum guarantee, since the filing may never arrived at court!  The minimum must be an absolute true minimum.

5. All guarantees should be testable (this will be very important to implementers)[Bergeron]  This is one of the basics.

6. A consistent structure should be used for scenario steps; something like "actor does X", "system does Y", "actor does Z", and so on. In a summary level use case, the verbs are typically other (user-goal level) use cases; in user-goal level use cases, the actions are "black boxes" representing either information exchange or integrated business process (or both). Cockburn has all kinds of useful guidelines on how to structure this prose precisely so it can be more normative and testable, which again will be appreciated by implementers who haven't been at our table (and even those that have :). It is important, for user-goal level use cases especially, that the actions (the direct object of the verb) be implementation-neutral, only indicating the business purpose and not the implementation of what the system will do. (I suspect this is some of what Rex was getting at.)[Bergeron]  Agree

7. In the "human-oriented" use cases (section 2) it seems that sometimes MDEs enter the fray, and when they do the "client" or "requesting" MDE is called a "process". This is confusing. I missed the definition of what a "process" is, so maybe that would help. But in any case, it is very confusing to implementers to mix up the "efiling system" that actors interact with and individual MDEs (what we used to call components) that other MDEs interact with. (Yes, humans can interact directly with MDEs, but I think it will make life difficult on implementers (or at least some implementers with some kinds of business models) if we mix these concepts in a single use case without using clear language to describe what's going on.)[Bergeron]  Agree

8. In general, especially in integrated systems like the one envisioned by Blue, it is dangerous to assume actors will be humans. Yes, yes...eventually all information systems have to produce value for people, somewhere. But in many cases, it is conceivable that in some business models our use case actors will be software agents rather than humans. The language in the introduction (lines 99, 110) and implications elsewhere in the document (e.g., lines 125, 128) seem to imply a bias against this. My suggestion would be to soften that language, and to define actors as "roles with goals" rather than the traditional human players of those roles. Some of their names may change, and we may look at the use cases a little differently, but in any case I think the use cases would be cleaner.[Bergeron]  Scott, this is very important point.  We must be aware and consider that all MDEs are actors and, at some point, all actors could be MDEs.

9. A clearer statement in the introduction as to how we expect this document to be used would be helpful. We could then test the document by actually putting it to some of those uses (at least in a simulated sense.) The current introduction explains what the document is, but not why it is needed, who the audience would be, etc. More specifically, is this document intended to be normative? Will someone or something be seeking to be "compliant" with this document in some way?

I have some specific comments on the non-functional requirements that I will post under separate cover.

Thanks all.
--Scott

Scott Came
Principal Consultant
Justice Integration Solutions, Inc.
Olympia, Washington
scott@justiceintegration.com
http://www.justiceintegration.com



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