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Subject: Re: [cti-cybox] CybOX Object Selection


Going through the “green-field” list again (BTW Rich Piazza added a column highlighting the relative complexity of each Object via its number of UML classes/enums), I think it might be reasonable to also include the following objects:

* AS - well understood and likely to be used in the updated Network Connection Object (source/destination ASN).
* x509 Certificate - well understood and supported via the x509 to CybOX utility [1]

[1] https://github.com/CybOXProject/x509-to-cybox

Regards,
Ivan


On 2/3/16, 8:19 AM, "Kirillov, Ivan A." <ikirillov@mitre.org> wrote:

>I think that makes great sense, Trey. 
>
>On the point release front, we’d love any input to help us plan out this roadmap - which objects/object classes would you like to see us address first? I know that Terry is keen on the web forum post object/credential dump object, as an example.
>
>Oh, and if we do envision using these Object subsets/classes as a means for producers/consumers to declare their particular facet of CybOX support, it seems like this is a topic for the interoperability SC.
>
>Regards,
>Ivan
>
>
>
>
>On 2/3/16, 4:31 AM, "Trey Darley" <cti-cybox@lists.oasis-open.org on behalf of trey@soltra.com> wrote:
>
>>On 02.02.2016 13:44:00, Jason Keirstead wrote:
>>> ". Maybe what we really need is a “malware analysis” subset, a “digital
>>> forensics” subset, etc."
>>> 
>>> Yep that is what I am saying I suppose.
>>> 
>>> Cybox Base
>>> Cybox Network
>>> Cybox Digital Forensics
>>> Cybox Malware
>>> 
>>> That way a product can more easily specify what they support. And,
>>> people looking for products can more easily align expectations.
>>> 
>>
>>Hey, Jason -
>>
>>This is precisely the approach Ivan and I intend to pursue in point
>>releases to 3.0. The idea for 3.0 is, let's get the core CybOX
>>abstract type definitions right and refactor the set of core MVP
>>Observable types selected. Then, say, for 3.1, we as a community
>>decide to prioritize the digital forensics domain. So we'll pull
>>together a constituency of subject matter experts to guide the
>>creation / refactoring of additional Observable types focused on
>>digital forensics use cases.
>>
>>In parallel to the ongoing 3.0 effort, I'd like to see us:
>>
>>0) Assemble a list of use case categories a la:
>>
>>  * network
>>  * digital forensics
>>  * malware analysis
>>  * mobile
>>  * virtualization
>>  * ...
>>
>>1) Prioritize that list to produce a point release roadmap.
>>
>>2) Work to identify subject matter experts to guide those discussions,
>>   reach out, get them on board, and execute the timeline.
>>
>>Thoughts?
>>
>>-- 
>>Cheers,
>>Trey
>>--
>>Trey Darley
>>Senior Security Engineer
>>4DAA 0A88 34BC 27C9 FD2B  A97E D3C6 5C74 0FB7 E430
>>Soltra | An FS-ISAC & DTCC Company
>>www.soltra.com
>>--
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