RE: [cti] RE: i18n Mini-Group Online Meeting - 11PM - 12AM, May 25 (Wed) UTC - Final Announcement

["Masuoka, Ryusuke" <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>]

Jason, John-Mark,

Sorry for my late response. 
I am on the road and having difficulty to send/receive emails.

Could you please add/modify Use Cases and Requirements
of the i18n document? I think it is particulary important to 
share concrete examples/use cases where "
it's all UTF 8 so we're covered" is not enough.

Regards,

Ryu

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From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [cti@lists.oasis-open.org] on behalf of John-Mark Gurney [jmg@newcontext.com]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:55 AM
To: Jason Keirstead
Cc: Masuoka, Ryusuke/益岡 竜介; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [cti] RE: i18n Mini-Group Online Meeting - 11PM - 12AM, May 25 (Wed) UTC - Final Announcement

Jason Keirstead wrote this message on Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:51 +0000:
> I regret missing the meeting.
>
> RE use cases,  I have the requirement for i18n. Our product is international and the threat Intel originating from it posted out via TAXII could be in any language.
>
> I think Cybox needs to be thought of here as well,  but haven't seen it discussed.  The cybox standard needs to define very strictly how string equality, regexp, and collation must be implemented with STIX for i18n to be properly supported, or else people could very easily create implementations that will blow up when given i18n content. It's not enough to just say "it's all UTF 8 so we're covered",  it's more complicated than this.

I agree...  I have added some inital language to the patterning spec to
hopefully deal w/ this..  CybOX is a bit special in that some aspects,
like translation don't apply, as they are dealing w/ the facts...  You
don't want the file name, translated..

As for collation, IMO, adding functions to handle this is probably the
best long term solution, but I don't think should be part of the MVP...
The issue w/ collation is that every language/region is different, so
the pattern would have to explicitly specify which collation to use...

> I also put a third proposal into the working document and am interested if people have feedback. I basically took Ryus proposal and restructured it slightly,  which I think will result in a much more compact translation for most use cases.
>
>
>
> Sent from IBM Verse
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>    Masuoka, Ryusuke --- [cti] RE: i18n Mini-Group Online Meeting - 11PM - 12AM, May 25 (Wed) UTC - Final Announcement ---
>     From:"Masuoka, Ryusuke" <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>To:cti@lists.oasis-open.orgDate:Thu, May 26, 2016 6:02 AMSubject:[cti] RE: i18n Mini-Group Online Meeting - 11PM - 12AM, May 25 (Wed) UTC - Final Announcement
>
>
>
>   Hi, i18n-ers, all,
>
>   Thank you for the attendees of the meeting and discussions.
>   We could cover only use cases, not as far as I had hoped,
>   but it was due to lively and constructive discussions
>   and I appreciate them very much.
>   I will try to do better proceedings in future.
>
>   One note: It seems the Lync I used is a bit different from the Lync by MITRE.
>     You need to use Internet Explorer to join the meeting on your PC.
>
>   I will set up another Doodle poll for the next meeting soon.
>   (I will be traveling to Europe for the next two weeks and
>   options might be limited, but I will see.)
>
>   In the meanwhile, please update the document as necessary.
>   (I tried to capture things from the meeting in the document.)
>
>     i18n Specification - Pre-Draft
>   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gNHSCGE3k6IhCjlYXFce3AfvkrabebmbulaipSr3_VY/
>
>   Thank you,
>
>   Ryu
>
>
>
>     From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 5:34 PM To: cti@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [cti] RE: i18n Mini-Group Online Meeting - 11PM - 12AM, May 25 (Wed) UTC - Final Announcement
>
>
>
>   Hi, i18n-ers, all,
>
>   I have updated the i18n document to make it more readable
>   and tried to address comments as much as possible.
>
>     i18n Ideas Google Document:
>   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gNHSCGE3k6IhCjlYXFce3AfvkrabebmbulaipSr3_VY/
>   Please check it out and add further comments, etc. if interested.
>
>   Regards,
>
>   Ryu
>
>   P.S.
>   By the way, thank you for John (?) making the i18n Mini-Group meeting
>   announcement at the OASIS CTI TC online meeting yesterday (5/24).
>   I tried to make the announcement myself, but my consciousness level
>   was so low that I could not make my mic work ;;) ...
>
>
>
>     From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:25 PM To: cti@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [cti] i18n Mini-Group Online Meeting - 11PM - 12AM, May 25 (Wed) UTC - Final Announcement
>
>
>
>   Hi, i18n-ers, all,
>
>   We will have the first i18n (internationalization) Mini-Group Online Meeting
>   as follows:
>
>   -----
>   URL:  https://lync.jp.fujitsu.com/Meet/masuoka.ryusuke/WPRT5LF9
>   Dial-in Numbers:  https://lync.jp.fujitsu.com/Dialin
>   Dial-in ID: 11185596
>   Note:
>     Join a Skype for Business (Lync) Meeting
>     http://bit.ly/1Wmy45u
>   -----
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>   The teleconference system is Lync, the same as the one used by MITRE.
>   So if you are able to attend OASIS CTI TC Online Meetings, there should be no problem
>   attending this one. (If any, please email me at masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com.)
>
>   Please update the i18n document or let us know your comments/suggestions/etc.
>   through the Slack channel or email to me.
>
>   i18n Slack Channel: #i18n -  http://cti-tc.slack.com
>   i18n Ideas Google Document:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gNHSCGE3k6IhCjlYXFce3AfvkrabebmbulaipSr3_VY/
>
>   Regards,
>
>   Ryu

--
John-Mark

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