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Subject: RE: [dcml-frame] RE: [dcml-appserv] RE: [dcml-frame] REMINDER: Comments on the DCML charter due by EOB Tomorrow


Carl,

ITIL is to provide use case examples.  DCML expressions
(the XML) should not reference ITIL only the data that
ITIL processes deal with.

Fred 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carl Mattocks [mailto:cmattocks@metlife.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 4:21 PM
>To: Cummins, Fred A
>Cc: Thomas, Darrel; dcml-appserv@lists.oasis-open.org; 
>dcml-frame@lists.oasis-open.org; 
>dcml-ms-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; Sarah Barbuscia
>Subject: Re: [dcml-frame] RE: [dcml-appserv] RE: [dcml-frame] 
>REMINDER: Comments on the DCML charter due by EOB Tomorrow
>
>Fred:
>
>If DCML is going to reference ITIL in any way .. the taxonomy 
>will be more than CIM.
>
>
>Carl Mattocks
>Consultant : ITIL  Application Knowledge Management MetLife 
>732 893 4170
>
>'Always look on the bright side of life' Monty Python
>
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>[dcml-frame] RE: [dcml-appserv] RE: [dcml-frame] REMINDER: 
>Comments on    
>                                                the DCML 
>charter due by EOB Tomorrow                                    
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>Darrel,
>
>I still don't understand what you are looking for in a 
>taxonomy that is not in CIM. In any event, the relationship to 
>CIM should be clarified so there is not duplication.
>
>Some changes to the charter are suggested in the attached document.
>
>Fred
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Thomas, Darrel
>>Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:30 AM
>>To: Cummins, Fred A; 'Sarah Barbuscia'; 
>>'dcml-frame@lists.oasis-open.org';
>>'dcml-ms-sc@lists.oasis-open.org'; 'dcml-appserv@lists.oasis-open.org'
>>Cc: 'jamie.clark@oasis-open.org'
>>Subject: RE: [dcml-appserv] RE: [dcml-frame] REMINDER:
>>Comments on the DCML charter due by EOB Tomorrow
>>
>>Actually, I don't believe that the taxonomy that is reference here is 
>>the same level of taxonomy that CIM would create in domain specific 
>>implementations (i.e., SMIS, SMASH, etc.), but act as the 
>overlay that 
>>DCML is to provide, which the statement attempts to articulate.  I 
>>hearken back to my ecosystem slide which attempts to lay out 
>the layers 
>>of relationships between standards efforts and any work that is 
>>articulated in the DCML efforts must be considered complementary and 
>>expect to use these other standards as appropriate.
>>
>>I have no problem with shortening the charter, and this is an 
>>opportunity to provide some feedback.  Turn track changes on, and 
>>provide something that we all can take a look at...
>>
>>Regards,
>>jDT
>>
>>J. Darrel Thomas
>>Distinguished SE
>>Chief Technologist, Datacenter Services Portfolio Electronic Data 
>>Systems Corporation 5400 Legacy Drive Mail Stop H3-5A-34 
>Plano, Texas  
>>75024
>>972-797-9695 (Office)
>>972-679-5943 (Cell)
>>Darrel.Thomas@EDS.Com (Email)
>>
>>"Of all the things I've  lost, the one I miss the most is my mind..."
>>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Cummins, Fred A
>>Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:11 AM
>>To: Thomas, Darrel; Sarah Barbuscia;
>>dcml-frame@lists.oasis-open.org;
>>dcml-ms-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; dcml-appserv@lists.oasis-open.org
>>Cc: jamie.clark@oasis-open.org
>>Subject: RE: [dcml-appserv] RE: [dcml-frame] REMINDER:
>>Comments on the DCML charter due by EOB Tomorrow
>>
>>Darrel,
>>
>>I'm concerned that the "taxonomy" effort will duplicate the effort of 
>>the DMTF/CIM potentially producing inconsistent results.  We should 
>>deal with CIM either incorporating it or defining why not.
>>
>>I would also like the document to be much shorter. You might consider 
>>the impact if the purpose section stopped after the first sentence in 
>>the second paragraph.
>>
>>Fred
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Thomas, Darrel [mailto:darrel.thomas@eds.com]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:17 PM
>>>To: Sarah Barbuscia; dcml-frame@lists.oasis-open.org; 
>>>dcml-ms-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; dcml-appserv@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>Cc: jamie.clark@oasis-open.org
>>>Subject: [dcml-appserv] RE: [dcml-frame] REMINDER: Comments
>>on the DCML
>>>charter due by EOB Tomorrow
>>>
>>>Hello All,
>>>
>>>I've marked up the current charter with some minor changes.
>>>Please review for possible completion by CoB, Friday.  Tim, 
>would you 
>>>look over the dates and let me know I'm being somewhat 
>aggressive?  I 
>>>kinda want to put some urgent cadence behind this effort...
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>jDT
>>>
>>>J. Darrel Thomas
>>>Distinguished SE
>>>Chief Technologist, Datacenter Services Portfolio Electronic Data 
>>>Systems Corporation 5400 Legacy Drive Mail Stop H3-5A-34
>>Plano, Texas
>>>75024
>>>972-797-9695 (Office)
>>>972-679-5943 (Cell)
>>>Darrel.Thomas@EDS.Com (Email)
>>>
>>>"Of all the things I've  lost, the one I miss the most is my mind..."
>>>
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>>>received it in error, please notify the sender immediately 
>and delete 
>>>the original.  Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.
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>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Sarah Barbuscia [mailto:SBarbuscia@inventures.com]
>>>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:45 PM
>>>To: dcml-frame@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>Cc: jamie.clark@oasis-open.org
>>>Subject: [dcml-frame] REMINDER: Comments on the DCML charter due by 
>>>EOB Tomorrow
>>>
>>>
>>>Reminder:
>>>
>>>As discussed on Tuesday's teleconference, any comments on the TC 
>>>charter are due to the mail list by EOD tomorrow, February 10, 2006.
>>>
>>>Sarah
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:jamie.clark@oasis-open.org]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:28 PM
>>>To: dcml-frame@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>Subject: [dcml-frame] Proposed text of charter clarification ballot
>>>
>>>     Would you please review the attached revisions that 
>I've received 
>>>as proposed amendments to the DCML Framework TC charter.
>>(There are two
>>>identical documents attached here, in two formats, each
>>marked to show
>>>changes from the current approved text.)   Among other things,
>>>     -- As you've discussed,  these would rename the TC as the "DCML 
>>>Configuration Management TC."
>>>     -- These changes anticipate the practical equivalent of merging 
>>>the Apps & Services TC into this one.
>>>     -- New target dates should be inserted for the proposed 
>clarified 
>>>list of deliverables.
>>>
>>>     If adopted this would qualify as a "charter 
>clarification" under 
>>>the OASIS TC Process.  We can launch the ballot (as a web ballot on 
>>>the TC's
>>>site) to approve it as soon as the new target dates are 
>filled in, and 
>>>we incorporate any consensual corrections to the proposal.
>>>     Best regards  JBC
>>>
>>>~   James Bryce Clark
>>>~   Director, Standards Development, OASIS
>>>~   jamie.clark@oasis-open.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>(See attached file: dcml-config-mgmt-charter-FAC mods.rtf)
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