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Subject: Meeting Minutes 6/8/2004 -- DITA Technical Committee
Meeting Minutes 6/8/2004 -- DITA Technical Committee *** Please see Action Items and Decision Summary at the end *** ** Agenda ** ------------ 1. Roll call 2. Review/approve minutes from 18 May - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200405/msg00034.html 3. Report on W3C Workshop on Web Services and Compound Documents (Erik Hennum) 4. Assess the DITA Briefings (review sessions 1-3); start listing issues for upcoming specification prep. 5. New "dita-users" forum -- discuss how to move toolkit discussions, etc. to this forum. 6. AOB? ** Minutes ** ------------- 1. Roll call - Voting Members: 9 out of 19; not a quorum Mary McRae Michael Priestley France Baril Seraphim Larsen Frank Peters Bruce Esrig Bruce Sesnovich Sharon Veach Don Day - Observers and guests: Scott Tsao Erik Hennum - Prospective Members: (will let attendance count towards their membership qualifications) Shawn Jordan Mike Wethington Rob Frankland - We do NOT have a quorum, so we can't make any decisions today. 2. Review/approve minutes from 18 May http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200405/msg00034.html - Can't approve, no quorum - We did review action items - all outstanding items were completed. 3. Report on W3C Workshop on Web Services and Compound Documents (Erik Hennum) - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200406/msg00016.html - The conference was about interaction and rendering, getting different pieces of the web application story to work together. DITA was thus not central to the theme of the workshop - But he did get lots of interest and many interesting questions -- - What's the relationship of conref and conkeyref to XML Fragment Interchange? - How does DITA manage the timing of refreshing conrefs? Does DITA keep a snapshot of the last refresh so the content can be displayed if the remote resource isn't available? - How does DITA resolve discrepancies in processing/style when a map is aggregating topics from someone else that has their own styling? What is the behavior of a DITA map in an environment like this? - What is the relationship of DITA semantics to RDF? - All in all, it was very worthwhile raising the DITA perspective to this audience - And it may be worthwhile to stay in touch with W3C -- there are interesting developments there that may be of interest to us, particularly with regard to changing the browser model - Question: Did Erik get any contacts of people with whom we might work in the future? Answer: No, it was too tightly focused on Web applications. - Bruce Esrig -- Interested in the comment that if someone is using your content and you aren't aware of it. This is not just a technical problem but also a "social" problem. People should be informed if their content is being used, and you should work together to resolve issues. Discussion: Michael answered to this in terms of specialization. Basically, it's something we need to revisit after we do the "Specialization" briefing so we can have a more informed discussion. - Bruce Esrig -- When you construct a map, it's another way you are bringing information together. When you do this, what is the influence on the content? How does specialization interact with maps? Answer: Don -- The map can invoke style overrides per the individual topics. Michael -- You shouldn't keep style information in the map. Don -- Let's log this issue as coming out of the maps briefing, and try to prioritize a solution. 4. Assess the DITA Briefings (review sessions 1-3); start listing issues for upcoming specification prep. - Issue from Briefing #2 (topics and maps): How does specialization interact with maps? (see question from Bruce Esrig, above) - Issue: Slides must be made available well before the meeting starts, so people can get to them in time. - Comment: WebEx was a lot easier to use than SameTime. But IBM can offer SameTime. So, we will continue using both. - Comment from Scott Tsao: Include Erik's presentation from JoAnn Hackos' conference as part of Briefing #3 (DITA processing). Don will discuss with Erik offline. - Don: Do we need to spend time developing one or more representative processing scenarios? Seraphim thinks it would be helpful. - Don: As a committee, do we need to spend time discussing the processing models? Bruce Esrig, Rob Franklin -- Yes, we need to have something to show to our local processing people. Don: Should this be concurrent with developing the specification, or should be done afterwards? Bruce/Rob: It can be done afterwards. - Eric from BMC: Useful to have a mechanism to submit questions in advance, to be covered in subsequent briefings. Don will put out all the rest of the briefing subjects, with a specific request for people to submit questions. - Bruce Sesnovich: With the ability to specialize, is there a potential for namespace conflicts? (Two people creating two specializations off the same topic, but giving them the same name.) Don wants to handle this as an issue to be handled with the other issues, with the help of Erik Hennum. Don also has a pertinent URL that he will post to the list. 5. New "dita-users" forum -- discuss how to move toolkit discussions, etc. to this forum. - Michael has opened a dita-users forum on Yahoo Groups. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-users/> - How should we move the discussion there? - First of all, the Yahoo list is intended for USERS, whereas the TC list is intended for the group creating the specification. - Seraphim: Post a summary of each briefing with URLs pointing to the presentations. 6. AOB? - Not covered. ** Summary of Decisions ** -------------------------- - No decisions made (no quorum) ** Action Required ** --------------------- 010 Eric Hennum -- Present W3C Compound Documents Paper at W3C (June 1-2 in San Jose, Calif.). - Done as of 6/8/04 - Eric did present and his report was sent to the TC list. 011 Michael Priestley -- Provide URL for first briefing (to take place Tuesday May 25th) - Done as of 6/8/04 012 All -- Invite people to attend May 25th briefing (but consolidate phone lines). - Done as of 6/8/04 013 Michael Priestley -- Start "dita-users" group on Yahoo Groups. - Done as of 6/8/04 014 Don Day -- Don will send out a list of all the remaining briefings subjects, with a specific request for people to submit questions ahead of time. 015 Don Day -- Don to post a URL to the list, pertinent to the discussion of naming conflicts and namespaces. (cf. Issue #002). 016 Don Day -- Slides for the briefings must be made available well in advance, just in case people aren't able to connect to SameTime or WebEx. ** Issues to be Resolved ** --------------------------- 001 Bruce Esrik -- How does specialization interact with maps? 002 Bruce Sesnovich -- How do we resolve name conflicts? (E.g. two people create two different specializations off the same parent topic, but give them the same name). <END> ___________________________________________________________ Seraphim Larsen ICG Technical Publications Sr. Technical Writer Intel Corporation (480) 552-6504 Chandler, AZ The content of this message is my personal opinion only. Although I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make here in no way represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak on behalf of Intel on this matter. ___________________________________________________________
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