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Subject: RE: [dita] Fwd: [dita-comment] Interaction of "processing" and "translation" attribute

As a rule, translation agencies prefer that variable text that is essentially static (units of measurement, product names, corporate names, and such). Terms that will have to be parsed for different languages will be problematic or, in some cases, impossible to translate without flattening any variable text (say, for example, when a single term is used in different syntactic roles—nominative, accusative, etc.).


That said, some companies might have business rules to address such considerations, so it’s perhaps overkill to *never* allow resources to be translated.


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From: dita@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:dita@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Kristen James Eberlein
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 7:22 AM
To: DITA TC <dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: [dita] Fwd: [dita-comment] Interaction of "processing" and "translation" attribute


For discussion on Tuesday, 20 June.

I think the tools vendor is making an incorrect assumption that resource-only items (for example, items referenced by <keydef> elements) should not be translated.

Others? And will our decision here trigger a need for an item in errata 02?


Kristen James Eberlein
Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
+1 919 682-2290; kriseberlein (skype)

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[dita-comment] Interaction of "processing" and "translation" attribute


Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:40:03 +0200 (CEST)


Stefan Eike <stefan.eike@mailbox.org>





I'm unsure about the interaction of the "processing" and the "translation" attributes. I had a discussion with one of our DITA tool vendors, and we interprete the specification differently.

Consider a <keydef>:

<keydef keys="foo" href="">
We have many <keydef> elements like this in our docs. We use <keydef> elements to point to "database topics". These topics should not be rendered in the output, but these database topics contain reusable textual elements (like <ph> or <dlentry>), that are conkeyrefed into rendered topics. A <keydef> element implicitely sets processing-role="resource-only". So for us, topics referenced with <keydef> should be translated, because they might contain text.

Our DITA tool vendor says, a <keydef> is resource-only and resource-only "things" should not be translated. I assumed, that the "resource-only" would not affect translations. I could not find a statement in the specs that determines that. I expected, that, by default, a <keydef> should be processed like any other element, so it should be "translated", unless translate="no" is set.

So I expected, that, if I'd like to avoid the translation of a <keydef> referenced topic, I would explicitely need to write:

<keydef keys="foo" href="" translate="no"/>


Could you please clarify?


Thank you and best regards,

Stefan Eike

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