Re: [dita] DITA 2.0: Will we ship XSDs?

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:14 AM, David Hollis <dhollis@aandoconsultancy.ltd.uk> wrote:

cc Chet.

This surely can't be a question unique to DITA?

Does OASIS provide any advice or suggestions about the formats to use to deliver its standards?

David

I would like to see at least one of those companies participate on the TC and to contribute technical resources for the for the inclusion and maintenance of XSD. Unless that happens, I am willing to say goodbye to XSD in 2.0.

Best regards,
Bob Thomas

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Kristen James Eberlein <kris@eberleinconsulting.com> wrote:

I don't know what can be done with RNG, but I've experimented doing the following:

Using Trang to generate XSD from DTDs

Using oXygen's "Flatten schema" tool

Hand crafted changes produce a single XSD that validates

Best,
Kris

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Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
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On 6/18/2018 10:49 AM, Robert D Anderson wrote:

We have also discussed shipping XSDs that are not modular, but are generated from another format (presumably from a modular RNG).

I know there has been some difficulty doing this lately -- the process isn't as straightforward as I'd hoped -- but this is something we should be able to work out far more easily than trying to generate modular XSD files that follow the DITA 1.x design patterns.

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<graycol.gif>Scott Hudson ---06/18/2018 09:40:32 AM---Of those editors listed, which ones also support RNG or DTD? Perhaps if we can narrow the list to th

From: Scott Hudson <scott.hudson@jeppesen.com>
To: Kristen James Eberlein <kris@eberleinconsulting.com>, DITA TC <dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date: 06/18/2018 09:40 AM
Subject: Re: [dita] DITA 2.0: Will we ship XSDs?
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Of those editors listed, which ones also support RNG or DTD?

Perhaps if we can narrow the list to those that rely solely on XSD, it might make the decision more straight-forward?

--Scott

From: <dita@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Kristen James Eberlein <kris@eberleinconsulting.com>
Date: Monday, June 18, 2018 at 8:36 AM
To: DITA TC <dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: [dita] DITA 2.0: Will we ship XSDs?

We've talked about this a few times, but we've never come to a decision.
Reasons to not ship XSDs

· We cannot generate them automatically from the RNG.

Reasons to ship XSDs

· Editors such as Xopus/SDL Content Editor, XEditor, FontoXML use them. Of course, SDL reworks the XSDs, so the argument is less compelling there.

Thoughts? Extra lists to add?
--
Best,
Kris

Kristen James Eberlein
Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
www.eberleinconsulting.com
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