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Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] Using XIncludes to include infosets

At 12:45 2004 02 02 +0100, Peter Ring wrote:
>You have my sympathy. It's no fun these days to comply to the recs and
>working drafts.
>I think I can articulate the sorry state of xpointer() a bit more for those
>that perceive this as a mere implementation issue.
>XInclude depends on XPointer 

No, it doesn't, if by XPointer you mean the XPointer() scheme which
is "stuck" at Working Draft (and unlikely to become unstuck).

It "depends on" (at least as far as allowing one to include parts of
documents) the XPointer Recommendations which include the XPointer Framework 
and Element() scheme which I don't believe are in a sorry state.

>depends on XPath;

No, none of the XPointer Recommendations depend on XPath.  Only
the XPointer() scheme--which is not and probably never will be
a Recommendation--depends on XPath.


p.s.  I share lots of Daniel's frustration, as he knows, though
I was never a fan of "full" XPointer.  But I believe one should
be careful not to tar the existing XPointer Recommendations with
the same brush of failure that the XPointer() scheme (in some
folks' opinions, rightfully) experienced.

> more trouble to come with
>XPath 2.0, which relies on W3C XML Schema; i.e., if I understand this
>correctly, simple inclusion of document fragment will require a PSVI for the
>including document. It'll get hard to avoid W3C XML Schema processing even
>when you don't really need it ;(
>Keep up the good work anyway ;)
>kind regards
>Peter Ring
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Daniel Veillard [mailto:veillard@redhat.com]
>Sent: 2. februar 2004 10:36
>To: David Tolpin
>Cc: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
>Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Using XIncludes to include infosets
>On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 01:12:11PM +0400, David Tolpin wrote:
>> >
>> > Oh well, I guess we can all live with entity references for a
>> > lot longer:-)
>> What's wrong with jd.xslt/jd.xinclude?
>Okay, enough attacks, I'm done, there is no fun left, I need a break...
>I'm unsubscribing the DocBook lists like I did on the xsl-list, people
>interested knows they can reach me on the gnome.org lists.
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