Re: [docbook-publishers] RFE 3602904: line group and block quote elements

[Scott Hudson <scott.hudson@schneider-electric.com>]

The problem I see is with the blockquote model:

   ## A quotation set off from the main text
    element blockquote {
      db.blockquote.attlist,
      db.blockquote.info,
      db.attribution?,
      db.all.blocks+
    }
}

As you can see it's able to include db.all.blocks. Should we consider that line is a block-level element? If so:

db.all.blocks =
  (db.nopara.blocks | db.para.blocks | db.extension.blocks)

db.publishers.blocks = db.dialogue | db.poetry | db.drama

db.extension.blocks = db.publishers.blocks

Do we modify db.publishers.blocks = db.dialogue | db.poetry | db.drama | db.linegroup | db.line

That might have more downstream consequences than we want.

We could just modify    

db.blockquote =

## A quotation set off from the main text

    element blockquote {
      db.blockquote.attlist,
      db.blockquote.info,
      db.attribution?,
      (db.all.blocks | db.linegroup | db.line)+
    }
}

at which point we might as well make blockquote the same model as linegroup?

db.linegroup =  
    ## A grouping of lines in dialogue or other form of communication.
    element linegroup {
      db.linegroup.attlist, db.speaker*, (db.stagedir | db.line | db.all.blocks)+
    }
}

db.blockquote =

## A quotation set off from the main text

    element blockquote {
      db.blockquote.attlist,
      db.blockquote.info,
      db.attribution?,
      (db.stagedir | db.line | db.all.blocks)+
    }
}

if this is the case, why wouldn't you just use linegroup and forget blockquote altogether?

Thanks and best regards,

--Scott
Scott Hudson   |   PELCO  by Schneider Electric   |   United States  |   Standards Lead 
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On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Richard Hamilton <hamilton@xmlpress.net> wrote:

I exchanged messages with pcthoms regarding this RFE:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3602904&group_id=21935&atid=1037852)

He/she is asking that the following be legal:

<drama>
 <linegroup><speaker></speaker>
   <line>Text.</line>
   <blockquote>
     <line>Song.</line>
   </blockquote>
   <line>Text.</line>
 </linegroup>
</drama>

Right now, you cannot have <line> inside of a <blockquote> element. That's the addition the RFE is asking for.

At first, I thought he/she was just looking for a way to (ab)use the <blockquote> element to get an indent. But, while that is one result of doing this, the actual purpose is to markup a fragment of a song or a poem in the lines from a particular speaker, which sounds like a reasonable thing to do (though I don't know if <blockquote> is the best element to use for this purpose).

Does anyone have any thoughts on whether we should consider this change (allowing <line> inside <blockquote>, at least when <blockquote> is inside <linegroup>) or is there some other, hopefully better, way to achieve the same purpose?

Thanks,
Dick
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XML Press
XML for Technical Communicators
http://xmlpress.net
hamilton@xmlpress.net




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