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Subject: Re: [docbook] DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 19 November 2008
2008/11/19 Bob Stayton <bobs@sagehill.net>: > DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 19 November 2008 > ============================================================= > > The DocBook Technical Committee met on Wednesday, > 19 November 2006 at 1:00p EST (10:00a PST, 18:00GMT, > 18:00BST, 19:00CEST, 03:00JST+, 11:30p India+) for 65 > minutes. > > 1. Roll call > > Present: Paul Grosso, Scott Hudson, Dick Hamilton, > Gershon Joseph, Jirka Kosek, Larry Rowland, Bob Stayton, > Norm Walsh. > > Absent: Jim Earley, Keith Falhgren, Patricia Gee, Nancy > Harrison, Corey Leong, Dave Pawson, John Pederson, > Pine Zhang > > We have a quorum of voting members. > > 2. Accpeted the minutes [1] of the previous meeting (September). > > 3. Next meeting: 17 December 2008 > > No regrets. > > 4. Review of the agenda. > > 5. Review of open action items > > a. Bob to organize TDG reading after names are fixed. > CONTINUE > > b. Bob to add agenda item for using a map for modular DocBook. > DONE > > c. Norm to write up a backwards compatibility policy document. > CONTINUE > > d. Gershon to communicate with JoAnne Hackos regarding adoption committee. > CONTINUE > > e. Norm to incorporate group parameter change (RFE 1998852) into the schema > for 5.1. > CONTINUE > > f. Norm to ask mailing list about 'rep' on methodparam. > CONTINUE > > g. Bob to follow up with Norm regarding submittal to OASIS. > CONTINUE > > h. Jirka to analyze RelaxNG without Schematron. > DONE > > i. Larry to investigate RFE 2100736 (initializer should allow constants). > DONE > > > 6. DocBook TC charter review. > > Needs an update regarding the activities of the Publishing > Subcommittee. > > ACTION: Dick to review and propose changes > > 7. DocBook 5.0 standards update > > It is now a Committee Specification. For the OASIS > Standard, We are waiting for a third > corporate member to declare they are using DocBook 5. > > ACTION: Norm to update the OASIS site for 5.0 spec and schem. > > 8. Public and system identifiers for DocBook 5.0 DTD. > > Bob mentioned that we don't have a public identifier for > the DocBook 5.0 DTD. Although the DTD is not the normative > standard, people still use it and need a consistent public > identifier. Also, versions 4 always included a URL to > a copy of the DTD that can be used as a default system > identifier. We should add that for 5.0 as well. > > ACTION: Norm to update the spec to include the public and > system identifiers. > > 9. Discussion of RelaxNG without Schematron (Jirka). > > Jirka posted a comparison table of the various schema. The latest > version is dated 18 November 2008 [2]. The concern is > that not all tools support the normative standard of > RelaxNG with Schematron rules. > > Norm pointed out that the automated conversion from RelaxNG > to DTD and XML Schema forms is faulty. He suggested we > might hand build and maintain those schemas to maximize > their fidelity to the RelaxNG normative standard. > Or we could wait until James Clark updates Trang to > make the conversions more complete. > > Gershon asked how many users there are for DTD and XML Schema. > > Gershon also suggested that since some tools don't support RelaxNG, > perhaps XML Schema should be the normative standard because > it is supported by more tools. > > Bob pointed out that the RelaxNG schema is very easy > to customize, and currently the DTD and XML Schema are not > because they are mechanically generated and have a flat > structure. > > ACTION: Norm to ask James Clark if a Trang update will work better. > > ACTION: Bob will ask the mailing list who is using 5.0, which > validation tool they are using, and why using DTD or XML Schema > instead of RelaxNG. > > ACTION: Jirka to add the schema comparison table to > the DocBook 5.0 Transition Guide. > > 10. Policy for backwards compatible changes (Norm). > > Continued. > > 11. Publishing Subcommittee report (Scott). > > The committee has been meeting. They addressed some > comments from Norm, and are considering items for drama > documents. They are also considering using Dublin Core > metadata element names with the DC namespace inside the > info element, and maybe making the DC elements mutually > exclusive with the corresponding DocBook elements to > avoid duplication and confusion. > > 12. DocBook Adoption Committee proposal (Gershon). > > Continued. > > 13. Using a map for modular DocBook (Dick and Jim). > > Continued. > > 14. Review of Requests for Enhancement > > To browse a specific RFE, enter the URL (on one line): > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&; > group_id=21935&atid=384107&aid=XXXX > > These RFEs postponed until after 5.0 release > 1097183 Allow Task as a sibling of sections > 1679665 Add better support for modular documentation > 1722935 DocBook 5: Adding proofreader in @class for othercredit? > 1770787 Rename firstname and surname > 1907003 biblioid content model too broad > > ACTION: Bob to move the above RFEs to the general list > for the next agenda. > > > RFEs to be considered > 2021383 Is 'rep' on methodparam a mistake? > > Continued. > > 2067915 add floatstyle attribute to sidebar > > Approved for 5.1. > ACTION: Norm to add to 5.1 schema. > > 2100736 initializer should allow constants > > Larry presented evidence that the element should have a > more complete content model. Generally accepted, but we > need a detailed content model proposal. > > ACTION: Norm to write up a content model proposal for initializer. > > 2132238 add a poem element > > Denied, because the Publishing Subcommittee is addressing this. > Suggested the submittor contact the Subcommittee. > > 2315507 subtitle in sidebar > > Approved for 5.1. > ACTION: Norm to add to 5.1 schema. > > ----- > > [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200809/msg00002.html > [2] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200811/msg00004.html > > Bob Stayton > Sagehill Enterprises > bobs@sagehill.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-help@lists.oasis-open.org > > Is there any sort of release date for DocBook 5.1? -- ----- Richard Quadling Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731 "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"
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