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Subject: RE: [dss-x] Groups - Using Assertion for DSS/X InterOP (DSS Assertion.pdf) uploaded
- From: "Pim van der Eijk" <pvde@sonnenglanz.net>
- To: "'Andreas Kuehne'" <kuehne@trustable.de>, <dss-x@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:16:43 +0200
Title: Message
Hello,
For your
information: a new version of the XML
testing tool "tamelizer 0.95" is now available open-source for download
It is based on the TA Committee
work.
Pim
Hi Juan
Carlos,
when writing the Assertion document your comment from one of the
last telcos came into my mind : Yes, assertions are not necessarily targeting
towards an interOP scenario. Usually it's more on conformance : You need just
one implementation and the test cases, not two implementations that
interact.
But to have a relevant set of InterOP test cases it may
be useful to cross-check with the assertions to ensure that all important parts
of the spec get tested.
Good luck with your flight. I was astouned
yesterday that the ash cloud now is affecting Spain. But on a satellites photo of the ash cloud Europe suddenly looks very small
...
Greetings
Andreas
----- Original Message
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From: Juan Carlos Cruellas <cruellas@ac.upc.edu>
To: dss-x
<dss-x@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 12:04:12
AM
Subject: Re: [dss-x] Groups - Using Assertion for DSS/X InterOP
(DSS Assertion.pdf) uploaded
Dear Andreas,
Thank you very much for
your document. Indeed it is very interesting.... I am afraid that I will not be
able to make next Monday's call (I will be -if the
ashes cloud allows it- in an ESI meeting in London)....
There is one thing that I wanted to
comment though....maybe I am wrong but I would say that the assertions would be
extremelly useful within the context of conformance checking, i.e., to check
that a certain application is conformant to the specification. My view is that
in an interoperability event, apart from the fact that applications should be
aligned with the specification, the test cases should define what optional
elements are present in one test case, and what values for the relevant elements
and attributes both mandatory and optional present. I would say then that both
are complementary, the assertions could list the things that one tool should
check in the request or response, while the interoperability test case would
define what elements should be present in the request, and what relevant
elements.....
In my message of 19/1/2010 I made an initial proposal for
scoping the interoperability test cases on the core, where I identified a number
of opitional elements and optional inputs that I see that should be
tested....
I was thinking in specifyint test cases by enumerating the
elements and optional inputs so that each one would allow to test
interoperability of certain aspects:
<SignRequest>
<InputDocument><Base64XML/></InputDocument>
<OptionalInput>
<ClaimedIdentity>
</OptionalInput>
</SignRequest>
It is a pity that I can not
make next Monday, because we could talk about that, anyway we may go on by
email.
We may go on by email..:
Regards
Juan Carlos.
kuehne@trustable.de
escribió:
> Proposal how to use assertions in DSS/X to link specification
documents and
> test cases
> -- Andreas Kuehne*
>
> The document named Using Assertion for DSS/X InterOP (DSS
Assertion.pdf)
> has been submitted by Andreas Kuehne* to the OASIS
Digital Signature
> Services eXtended (DSS-X) TC document
repository.
>
> Document Description:
>
>
>
View Document Details:
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=37580
>
> Download Document: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37580/DSS%20Assertion.pdf
>
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