Raw Minutes Chat for meeting #204 on 2018-02-19

["Mr. Stefan Hagen" <stefan@hagen.link>]

[18:00] Stefan Hagen: 1. Welcome by the chair (Stefan Hagen)
[18:00] Stefan Hagen: 2. Minutes taker
All write into the chat, Stefan assembles and uploads into document area.

3. Roll call
[18:00] Stefan Hagen: AK, EJvN, SH in call - quorum reached
[18:00] Stefan Hagen: 4. Approval of the agenda
[18:01] Stefan Hagen: Agenda approved unchanged as published.
[18:01] Stefan Hagen: 5. Approval of minutes from previous calls
5.1 Minutes from call #203 on 2018-02-05:
URL = https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/62445/chat_trace_dss_kavi.txt
[18:02] Stefan Hagen: Minutes approved unchanged as published.
[18:02] Stefan Hagen: 6. Roadmap for 2018
6.1 Milestone DSS 2.0 Core/Base/MVP CSD01/CS01 stage
6.2 Milestone DSS 2.0 Popular Profiles CSD01 stage
6.3 Milestone DSS 2.0 other normative stages
6.4 Milestone DSS 2.0 supportive but supplementary non-normative materials
[18:02] Stefan Hagen: 7. Core 2.0 issues discussion
7.1 Maintenance tasks
[18:03] Stefan Hagen: Stefan suggests that Andreas appears as co-editor
[18:03] Stefan Hagen: Ernst Jan also finds this very reasonable
[18:03] Stefan Hagen: All agree
[18:04] Stefan Hagen: Congrats Andreas!
[18:04] Stefan Hagen: 7.2 Topology of schemas - structure and relation
[18:04] Stefan Hagen: Nothing new
[18:04] Stefan Hagen: 7.3 Editorial topics
7.3.1 Use of xs:any in DSS 2.0
[18:05] Stefan Hagen: AK: Last conclusion was to drop, so we will erase it from work products
[18:05] Stefan Hagen: EJvH and SH agree on the strategy
[18:07] Stefan Hagen: AK mentions that maybe in base schema there will remain one last any - but with a specific purpose and by request of TC members - and not as abundant maybe we would need some extension here in the future hook
[18:07] Stefan Hagen: 7.3.2 Strategy for Mix-In of third party schema references
[18:08] Stefan Hagen: AK sent two proposals that tackle different problems and that show how it would be done to the list
[18:09] Stefan Hagen: AK would like to receive feedback from Frank. So, Andreas will explicitly send a short mail to the list, so Frank can focus on the feedback task
[18:09] Stefan Hagen: 7.3.3 Workproduct organization
[18:13] Stefan Hagen: AK and SH have two work streams here that MUST not interfere
[18:14] Stefan Hagen: 1) Plain old Microsoft Word file used to push the v2 semantics so that other SDOs like eg. ETSI can have a fast look into our work (transparency and time to market optimal)
[18:15] Stefan Hagen: 2) mid to long term finding a better suitable format (LaTeX or markdown) for diffs, and mixing one source into multiple reader determined views. That requires a working publication chain on the side of PASIS.
[18:16] Stefan Hagen: s/PASIS/OASIS/
[18:16] Stefan Hagen: AK mentions, that there are other parties in the marketplace eagerly awaiting DSS v2
[18:20] Stefan Hagen: AK asks for a namespace for v2
[18:21] Stefan Hagen: SH if it is DSS v2 (and it SHALL be) then please use dss and not dss-x as namespace
[18:21] Stefan Hagen: Andreas: quick question upfront: The new core namespace should be 'urn:oasis:names:tc:dss:2.0:core:schema' or 'urn:oasis:names:tc:dss-x:2.0:core:schema' ?
[18:21] Stefan Hagen: Stefan Hagen: Hm, could we go for a URL based namespace (instead of URN)?
[18:22] Stefan Hagen: Declared XML Namespaces:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss-x/ns/localsig
[18:23] Stefan Hagen: A winner: http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss-x/ns/core
[18:24] Stefan Hagen: http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss/ns/core/v2
[18:24] Stefan Hagen: many more variations
[18:25] Stefan Hagen: SH will ask Robin Cover with some suggestions so he can help us find the best decision
[18:26] Stefan Hagen: 8. Profiles
[18:27] Stefan Hagen: Still w.r.t. above core namespace topic
[18:28] Stefan Hagen: Presumable winners could be (multiple new schema files): http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss-x/ns/core and http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss-x/ns/base etc. so that version tags would not make sense, as e.g.. base is a freshly created in this version
[18:28] Stefan Hagen: Back to 8. Profiles
[18:28] Stefan Hagen: Nothing new
[18:28] Stefan Hagen: Nothing new
[18:28] Stefan Hagen: EJvN is still waiting input from DH
[18:29] Stefan Hagen: AK spent some time with the verification profile, but no reportable changes yet (still planning and projecting)
[18:30] Stefan Hagen: 9. Next meeting
Suggested to meet again on 2018-MAR-05 (usual bi-weekly schedule)
[18:31] Stefan Hagen: All three of us agree to meet again, in thunder and rain
[18:31] Stefan Hagen: 10. AOB
[18:31] Stefan Hagen: None
[18:32] Stefan Hagen: Meeting adjourned