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Subject: Re: [ebxml-bp] [TMG Vote] ebXML BPSS V1.1 TS Submission to TC154
Duane, Is that a rhetorical question? I cannot comment on this on-the-record. And I can't comment on the CEFACT public list - because there is not one any more (some say that's my fault, eh?). Suffice to say - I think we would not be here working this in OASIS if we were deliriously happy about the CEFACT process. As for the TC154 - I feel that's an issue for the OASIS board et al, and not something I'd want to concern us or me directly. Onward and upward. Cheers, DW. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com> To: <ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:47 PM Subject: [ebxml-bp] [TMG Vote] ebXML BPSS V1.1 TS Submission to TC154 > How do members of this list feel about this? > > Duane > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [TMG Vote] ebXML BPSS V1.1 TS Submission to TC154 > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:17:48 +0100 > From: "Anders W. Tell" <anderst@toolsmiths.se> > Reply-To: UN/CEFACT Core Component WG <uncefact-tmg-ccwg@listman.disa.org> > Organization: Financial Toolsmiths AB > To: UN/CEFACT Core Component WG <uncefact-tmg-ccwg@listman.disa.org> > CC: UN/CEFACT TMG Business Processes WG > <uncefact-tmg-bpwg@listman.disa.org>, UN/CEFACT TMG BPSS Editing Team > <uncefact-tmg-bpss@listman.disa.org>, UN/CEFACT TMG UBAC Project Team > <uncefact-tmg-ubac@listman.disa.org>, uncefact-tmg-ccwg@listman.disa.org > References: <F2B40416-7D24-11D8-AF3A-000A958E399E@attglobal.net> > > > > The unexpected creation of this voting list and once again a rush > decision raise several questions about > transparency and procedure. I have no time to delibrate on these issues > right now so Ill get back later on. > > One part of the proposed voting procedure that must change is: > "No response from any voting members will be interpreted as a "yes" vote. " > > No responce from a "not present members" must be counted as "not adding > to the quorum" and not as Yes! > > There are serious issues regarding the BPSS that must be addressed re. > the Secretariats view regarding ebXML. > See > > thanks > /anders > > Klaus-Dieter Naujok wrote: > > > All, > > > > I am not sure were to start, so let me do so by stating that I had > > planned to follow up with this item right after my return home from > > Bonn, unfortunately I went off-line last week due to a death in the > > family and just now am getting back to work. > > > > In Bonn, the CCWG put before the TMG plenary the following resolution: > > > > “In order to have all specifications within the ebXML framework within > > ISO, We resolve to submit the Core Components Technical Specification > > Version 2.01 to ISO TC 154 for fast-tracking as a Draft Technical > > Specification.” > > > > This was approved by TMG and the request was passed on to the CSG and > > UNECE secretariat to add it to the upcoming CEFACT plenary agenda so > > that it can get final approval. > > > > In Bonn, the suggestion was made to also approve the ebXML BPSS V1.1 > > TS for fast-tracking to TC154. Since the BPWG did not meet nor had a > > quorum, I was asked to pose the question to the voting members > > electronically, which I am doing now. > > > > In addition to TMG members raising the request, a number of CSG > > members, as well as the UNECE secretariat asked the same question, > > should we not submit our other ebXML TS to TC154? Argument being "that > > such action clearly demonstrates that UN/CEFACT still supports ebXML, > > contrary to the perceptions frequently spread by various parties and > > organizations". > > > > Normally, the process would be for the BPWG to agree to the resolution > > first, and ones approved, the TMG voting members would be asked to > > support this. HOWEVER, there is little time, the deadline for > > submitting documents for "plenary approval" has long passed (before > > the Bonn meeting), BUT because of the importance the CSG asked the > > secretariat to make an exception to allow not only the CCTS to be > > added but also the BPSS TS. The UNECE secretariat has agreed to the > > request - however we must come to an agreement by this Friday to pass > > on to the secretariat our approved request and the supporting document > > (BPSS V1.1). Since all BPWG voting members are a subset of the TMG > > voting members, there should not be problem doing this as a "single" > > vote. > > > > Therefore, using the text from the CCTS and modifying it for the BPSS, > > I pose the request that the TMG approve the following resolution: > > > > “In order to have all specifications within the ebXML framework within > > ISO, We resolve to submit the ebXML Business Process Schema > > Specification Version 1.1 to ISO TC 154 for fast-tracking as a Draft > > Technical Specification.” > > > > The vote will close on Friday 26 March 2004 at 23:59 (any time zone). > > No response from any voting members will be interpreted as a "yes" vote. > > > > The list is now open for any discussion on this item. > > > > Regards, > > > > Klaus > > > > -- > > Klaus-Dieter Naujok UN/CEFACT/TMG Chair > > Global e-Business Advisory Council Principal Advisor > > Business: www.ge-bac.com Personal: www.klaus.naujok.name > > TMG: www.untmg.org BCF: www.unbcf.org > > Fingerprint: 78D6 FFD4 0A9B B7DE C738 6F04 3FA1 B366 F4B8 5064 > > > > > > > -- > ///////////////////////////////////// > / Business Collaboration Toolsmiths / > / website: / > / email: / > / phone: +46 8 562 262 30 / > / mobile: +46 70 546 66 03 / > ///////////////////////////////////// > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to the uncefact-tmg-ccwg listserve. > To unsubscribe send an email to lyris@listman.disa.org with the > following subject: Unsubscribe uncefact-tmg-ccwg > If you do not receive confirmation of your unsubscribe request > please notify postmaster@disa.org to report the problem. > > > -- > Senior Standards Strategist > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://www.adobe.com > > >
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