RE: [ebxml-bp] [ebBP] 7/21/2004: Guiding Principles - BPMN and BPSS

["Tony Fletcher" <tony_fletcher@btopenworld.com>]

Dear David,

Sorry, I am about a month behind with email and still desperately trying to
catch up.  I suspect you have already discovered the gotcha with the
approach you suggest below:  BPMN does not have a (standardised anyway) XML
representation.  A task for someone perhaps?

Best Regards     Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] 
Sent: 13 August 2004 18:03
To: Monica J. Martin
Cc: Tony Fletcher; 'ebXML BP'
Subject: Re: [ebxml-bp] [ebBP] 7/21/2004: Guiding Principles - BPMN and BPSS


Tony,

One possible way to approach this - since we're really talking about
discerning a common subset of functionality - is to use one or more of the
current BPSS models that I have built - and attempt to create the equivalent
in BPMN - but
*NOT* as a BPMN model (pictures) - but as the underlying XML instead.

If we can crack that - I can update the BPSS model so that it will
automatically emit the equivalent BPMN XML syntax directly.  That then of
course could be read back into a BPMN editor - or application that runs
BPMN.

This would give you "instant" equivalence - and we could document that
accordingly as a Technical Note - including guides to users on the walls and
edges to be aware of when using BPSS in this fashion.

Thanks, DW.
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Quoting "Monica J. Martin" <Monica.Martin@Sun.COM>:

> Tony Fletcher wrote:
> 
> >Dear Monica and others,
> >
> >With respect to a possible relationship between BPSS and BPMN, which 
> >way around do you think that might be?  I am not sure it would be 
> >wise to try
> to
> >extend BPSS to cover everything that BPMN can.  However, I would 
> >support
> the
> >idea of a 'profile' of BPMN that restricted the user of BPMN to 
> >process diagrams that easily translate into a BPSS description.
> >
> >  
> >
> mm1: Actually there would be constructs in ebBP that are not currently
> understood/held in BPMN. I think, although I cannot speak for JJ, that 
> he is considering the latter. Thanks.
> 
> 


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