RE: [ebxml-bp] [FWD: [announce] Press Release - CECID Contributed OSB Service Bus to CECID Community Website]

["David RR Webber \(XML\)" <david@drrw.info>]

Dale,

Appreciate the followup.

I posted a message to the Hermes list asking more details on how the two fit together presently - but not received answers there yet.

I'll let you know soon as I see more.

Looks like this is a work in progress - but an encouraging one.

If past history is a guide - with H2O they put the source and tool out there and only several months later followed thru on providing the user documentation needed - so I'll keep asking and see how things transpire.

Thanks, DW


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [ebxml-bp] [FWD: [announce] Press Release - CECID
> Contributed OSB Service Bus to CECID Community Website]
> From: "Moberg Dale" <dmoberg@axway.com>
> Date: Tue, February 05, 2008 1:30 pm
> To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>, 
> <ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Cc: "Monica J. Martin" <mjmartin3@mindspring.com>
> 
> Hi David
> 
> Apologies for the delay in response but I needed time to chase some
> links to find out about the CECID components. Unfortunately the main
> documentation seemed to be the user guides, and I did not find an xsd
> that describes the ruleset language with namespace
> http://www.cecid.hku.hk/plumber/ruleset2 mentioned in examples.
> 
> Basically, however, it seems like the rules amount to a dependency graph
> that might be derived from the labeled transition graph implicit in an
> ebBP instance. Since I have been doing a lot of xslt extractions lately
> from ebBP instances to connect ebBP with formal tools for process
> evaluation (using labeled transition state graphs!) as well as
> connecting models to other bp modeling notations, it would seem feasible
> if we could obtain details about things like the allowed values for the
> depends attribute @operation or for the id element's attribute @state.
> 
> Have you located any documentation or even an xsd for the rule-set
> notation?
> 
> Bye
> Dale Moberg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info] 
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:04 AM
> To: ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [ebxml-bp] [FWD: [announce] Press Release - CECID Contributed
> OSB Service Bus to CECID Community Website]
> 
> Team,
> 
> I'm wondering what would be required to support the BPST component from
> ebBP?  
> 
> Possibly an xslt to translate ebBP to the internal XML used by the BPST?
> 
> Also - I'm guessing this integrates to H20 ebXML messaging - I'll ask
> these Q's on the Hermes discussion list too.
> 
> Thanks, DW
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [announce] Press Release - CECID Contributed OSB Service Bus
> > to CECID Community Website
> > From: Rosanna Yip <rwyyip@cecid.hku.hk>
> > Date: Mon, February 04, 2008 3:24 am
> > To: announce@lists.oasis-open.org
> > 
> > *CECID Contributed OSB Service Bus to CECID Community Website 
> > <http://www.cecid.hku.hk/pressrelease_20080204_OSBweblauched.php> *
> > 
> > Hong Kong SAR, Peoples Republic of China - 4 February 2008 - Center
> for 
> > E-Commerce Infrastructure Development (CECID), The University of Hong 
> > Kong (HKU) contributes Observatory Service Broker (OSB) to CECID 
> > open-source community website.
> > 
> > Thanks to ITF funding, the Observatory Service Broker (OSB) is one of 
> > the project deliverable of Project Plumber. The OSB is an enhanced 
> > version of a process-driven enterprise service bus, which supports a 
> > choreography-based business process. It is based on a published Java 
> > standard - Java Business Integration (JBI). JBI is a Java-based
> standard 
> > addressing the EAI and B2B issues based on the paradigms and
> principles 
> > advocated by SOA. It defines the standards for composite plug-ins in
> SOA 
> > architecture, as well as how the plug-ins can communicate with each 
> > other. Along with the OSB, there is a Business Process State Tracking 
> > (BPST) engine registering the rule sets to guide the execution of 
> > business processes and keep track the state of each rule set.
> > 
> > OSB, BPST and their source codes 
> > (http://community.cecid.hku.hk/index.php/product/plumber) are released
> 
> > to CECID open-source community website 
> > <http://community.cecid.hku.hk/index.php/> under GNU General Public 
> > License Version 2 
> > <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html>. Later on, 
> > useful information and articles ranging from technical issue to
> general 
> > usage of OSB will be available at the community website. In addition, 
> > professional support is provided by CECID's VARs and can be requested 
> > through email enquiry@cecid.hku.hk <mailto:enquiry@cecid.hku.hk>.
> > 
> >   **
> > 
> > *About Project Plumber *(www.cecid.hku.hk/projectplumber.php 
> > <http://www.cecid.hku.hk/projectplumber.php>)
> > Coined Project Plumber, the project has awarded HK$ 9.2M from the
> HKSAR 
> > Government's Innovation and Technology Commission and HK$ 1.2M cash 
> > support from industry sponsors. Commenced on March 2006, the project 
> > aims to research and develop a software platform to facilitate 
> > enterprises to design and implement service oriented applications to 
> > transact with business partners based on key business-to-business
> (B2B) 
> > standards. The objectives of this project are to extend
> Service-Oriented 
> > Architecture (SOA) to support processing of electronic transactions 
> > between enterprises, to develop Web Service components to support 
> > reliable and secure B2B applications based on open standards like 
> > Universal Business Language (UBL), and to develop service modeling 
> > methodology and software to facilitate design of electronic
> transaction 
> > services. **
> > 
> > *About CECID *(www.cecid.hku.hk <http://www.cecid.hku.hk/index.php>)
> > Established in January 2002, Center for E-Commerce Infrastructure 
> > Development (CECID) at the University of Hong Kong conducts e-commerce
> 
> > research and development with the vision of helping organizations 
> > increase their competitiveness in the global economy. CECID develops 
> > e-commerce enabling technologies, participates in important 
> > international e-commerce initiatives, as well as supports e-commerce 
> > standardization for Hong Kong and the Asia Pacific Region. With
> projects 
> > primarily funded by the Hong Kong Government's Innovation and
> Technology 
> > Commission, CECID also takes on the mission to transfer knowledge and 
> > technology to the community. Besides organizing forums and seminars,
> the 
> > Center licenses its R&D results through the University of Hong Kong to
> 
> > IT industry. Its acclaimed e-commerce technology, Hermes, has
> penetrated 
> > over 80 economies and won the Best Infrastructure and Communication 
> > Application of the Linux Business Award 2005 as well as Certificates
> of 
> > Merit of the Asia-Pacific ICT Awards 2004 and HK Computer Society IT 
> > Excellence Award 2004.
> > 
> > *PR Contacts for Press and Analysts *
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> > Operations Manager
> > Center for E-Commerce Infrastructure Development (CECID)
> > Dept. of Computer Science
> > The University of Hong Kong
> > Tel: +852 2241 5798
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