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Subject: RE: [ebxml-cppa-negot] discovery of CPA template
Dale, Here are the steps, numbered for convenience. 1. Party B obtains a copy of Party A's CPA template and NDD. 2. Party B fills in its Party ID, communication address, and other details. 3. Party B may also modify other aspects of this CPA template that are indicated as negotiable in the NDD. 4. Party B does NOT modify the NDD. 5. Party B submits this modified CPA template to Party A as an initial offer. 6. The accompanying negotiation message indicates what Party B has changed in the CPA template just as in the case of a counter offer. 7. The choreography then continues as in the current BPSS instance document, with Party A making the response to Party B's offer. I definitely have in mind that party B submit the modified CPA template to Party A as an initial offer. I viewed item 6 as information to party A as to what was changed. The words "Just as in the case of a counter offer" seem to be confusing; I should not have used those words. Possibly, it is not necessary to indicate what was changed. Party A can use the NDD to analyze the content of the initial offer just as would be the case if Party B built the CPA template without reference to Party A's CPA template. In other words, I agree with your second paragraph. I think you are suggesting that steps 1-4 are out of scope anyway. That's correct but this is a case that might be worth mentioning in illustration. Regards, Marty ************************************************************************************* Martin W. Sachs IBM T. J. Watson Research Center P. O. B. 704 Yorktown Hts, NY 10598 914-784-7287; IBM tie line 863-7287 Notes address: Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM Internet address: mwsachs @ us.ibm.com ************************************************************************************* "Dale Moberg" <dmoberg@cycloneco To: Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS, <ebxml-cppa-negot@lists.oasis- mmerce.com> open.org> cc: 08/27/2002 02:19 Subject: RE: [ebxml-cppa-negot] discovery of CPA template PM Hi Marty, I think the opening logic steps seem OK. Are you suggesting that the initial message to Party A from Party B (containing a draft CPA derived from mods to Party A's template) go as a counteroffer? It seems to me it could go as the initial proposed CPA and just ignore that it was formed from a CPA template (and NDD) just like we ignore that an initial draft CPA might be formed from 2 CPPs (and a NDD if available). Dale -----Original Message----- From: Martin W Sachs [mailto:mwsachs@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:36 AM To: ebxml-cppa-negot@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [ebxml-cppa-negot] discovery of CPA template In our early discussions, we included the possiblity that Party B might discover Party A's CPA template rather than a CPP. For this case, the opening logic is: - Party B obtains a copy of Party A's CPA template and NDD. - Party B fills in its Party ID, communication address, and other details. - Party B may also modify other aspects of this CPA template that are indicated as negotiable in the NDD. - Party B does NOT modify the NDD. - Party B submits this modified CPA template to Party A as an initial offer. - The accompanying negotiation message indicates what Party B has changed in the CPA template just as in the case of a counter offer. - The choreography then continues as in the current BPSS instance document, with Party A making the response to Party B's offer. Does this scenario require any modifications to the current BPSS instance document? I don't think so but I would like other opinions. Regards, Marty ************************************************************************ ************* Martin W. Sachs IBM T. J. Watson Research Center P. O. B. 704 Yorktown Hts, NY 10598 914-784-7287; IBM tie line 863-7287 Notes address: Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM Internet address: mwsachs @ us.ibm.com ************************************************************************ ************* ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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