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Subject: [ebxml-cppa] Re: Arvola's comments on version 1.01


Arvola,

My responses inline ...

Regards,
Tony

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arvola Chan" <arvola@tibco.com>
To: "Tony Weida" <rweida@hotmail.com>; "CPPA"
<ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Arvola's comments on version 1.01


> Tony:
>
> I agree that it is OK to remove the following text from the 1.02 spec:

TW: My proposal was to remove the comment, not the text.  Although I
understand the point of the comment, I believe that the 1.0 team wanted to
offer a bit of optional guidance (not requirements) pending more detailed
treatment of intermediaries in a future version.  To me, that still seems
like a reasonable approach.

> "In this initial version of this specification, this MAY be accomplished
by
> creating a CPA between each Party and the intermediary in addition to the
> CPA between the two Parties. The functionality needed for the interaction
> between a Party and the intermediary is described in the CPA between the
> Party and the intermediary.  The functionality needed for the interaction
> between the two Parties is described in the CPA between the two Parties."
>
> Regarding the confidentiality attribute section, I just feel that the
> following statement is a little bit too strong:

TW: Partners who feel strongly about confidentiality must be able to make
such a strong statement in their agreement, backed up corresponding language
in the CPPA spec.  It might be OK to provide for weaker statements as well,
which would suggest a finer grained machanism than confidentiality = true or
false.

> "It MUST be encrypted above the level of the transport and delivered,
> encrypted, to the application."
>
> Some clarification along the lines used in the exchanges you have with
Marty
> may be helpful.
>
> Thanks,
> -Arvola
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Weida" <rweida@hotmail.com>
> To: "Arvola Chan" <arvola@tibco.com>; "CPPA"
> <ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:29 AM
> Subject: Arvola's comments on version 1.01
>
>
> > Arvola,
> >
> > Regarding two comments you included for version 1.01 (the version I
> > distributed to the list, with changes highlighted):
> >
> > 1. You commented about lines 339-343: "It was agreed in the joint
MSG-CPPA
> > meeting in October that the 1.1 CPP/A spec will not address the
> requirements
> > for interacting with intermediaries."
> >
> > I believe the identified text is broadly informational in nature and
> doesn't
> > conflict with your comment, so I'd be inclined to remove that comment
from
> > version 1.02.  Okay?
> >
> > 2. You commented on the confidentiality attribute, lines 1503-1504) as
> > follows: "I think the last part of the sentence "and delivered,
encrypted,
> > to the application" should be struck out. The encryption might have
> happened
> > before the ebXML message is packaged and signed. The middleware on the
> > receiver side probably should pass the decrypted payload to the
> destination
> > application."
> >
> > In response, I commented: "I thought the intent of this attribute was to
> > specify confidential delivery between applications, and thus the
sentence
> > should remain intact."  Is that agreeable, or shall I record this as an
> > issue?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tony
>
>


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