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Subject: delivery failure


Someone pointed me to the spot that talks about delivery failure
notification.  Line 1849-1851 of ver. 1.0 (as published) states "If the
Sending MSH does not receive an ACKNOWLEDGMENT MESSAGE after the maximum
number of retries, the Sending MSH SHOULD notify the application and/or
system administrator function of the failure to receive an acknowledgment."

The word SHOULD is incorrect and defeats the whole purpose of reliable
messaging. Reliable Messaging guarantees that either the message will be
delivered all the way to the receiving application or the sending
application will be notified of a delivery failure.  The SHOULD in line
1850 must be changed to SHALL.  Without guaranteed receipt of a delivery
failure notification, the application has no way to determine whether the
lack of an application-level response is an application problem or an
infrastructure problem.  It is then forced to do the whole analysis that it
has to do with unreliable messaging.

This should be a high priority correction.

Regards,
Marty

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Martin W. Sachs
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
P. O. B. 704
Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
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---------------------- Forwarded by Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM on 07/19/2001
10:56 AM ---------------------------

Martin W Sachs
07/19/2001 10:41 AM

To:   ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
cc:
From: Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
Subject:  delivery failure


How is a sending application informed of a delivery failure in the reliable
messaging function?  Is it one of the SOAP faults?

Regards,
Marty

*************************************************************************************

Martin W. Sachs
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
P. O. B. 704
Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
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