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Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Minutes 12/03/01 - Voting Meeting

In my opinion:

For ping, pong, StatusRequest and StatusResponse the spec says to Soap fault
with a code of "MustUnderstand" (section 8, line 1790) but this doesn't seem
to be very meaningful. These type of messages will not be specified as
"supported" in a CPA and there is nothing in the ebXML message that any
ebXML MSH could not parse since the "unsupported" part will be on the action
value and not a new element. Given that a MSH has to explicitly look at the
action to decide if it supports this, I think a error list of "NotSupported"
makes for much better MSH error handling verses a soap fault. Especially, if
the Ping/StatusRequest requests an async response.

I think we should still have an errorcode of NotSupported used for these
types of MSH messages that are not required to be implemented by an MSH.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Bunting [mailto:dougb62@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:05 PM
> To: ebXML Msg
> Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Minutes 12/03/01 - Voting Meeting
> David,
> I actually moved that Message Order also causes an Inconsistent error when
> the To Party decides not to honour such a request.  There were five things
> in my list, not the four that appear in the minutes.
> The main thing I wanted to resolve was a mustUnderstand / NotSupported /
> Inconsistent inconsistency in the 1.09 draft.  Very similar
> situations were
> previously handled using disparate REQUIRED errors.
> Separately, anything needed for a sending MSH to decide what goes in an
> ebXML message (or a receiver to ensure the message is conformant to an
> agreement) that's not in the CPA or obviously provided by the application
> should be addressed by the CPA team.  If the Message Order feature isn't
> covered by the CPA, that's a CPA bug.  Assuming, of course, we don't kill
> this efficiency feature.
> thanx,
>     doug
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Fischer" <david@drummondgroup.com>
> To: "ebXML Msg" <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Monday, 03 December 2001 12:49
> Subject: [ebxml-msg] Minutes 12/03/01 - Voting Meeting
> These are the minutes from Monday's voting meeting.
> I thought we achieved consensus on the error code issue concerning
> NotSupported/Inconsistent but talking to some members afterwards, this is
> not
> clear.
> Does anyone object to changing the error code on Ping, Pong,
> MessageStatus,
> duplicateElimination and AckRequested to Inconsistent?  This
> means the only
> thing in the spec with NotSupported is MessageOrder.
> Regards,
> David Fischer
> Drummond Group
> ebXML-MS Editor.
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