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Subject: [ebxml-msg] RE: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1


David,
	I agree that the list will be very long, especially if you
attempt to adopt a method that uses Marty's comments regarding all who
participated via eMail or conference call.  I do not have a good answer.
I will not lose any sleep if my name does not appear in the document. I
will tell you that I am sure that if a list of contributors is included
and someone is omitted from the list, there will be some who are
disappointed. 
	I think that you will remember that I wanted to place the list
of contributors into an appendix of the V 1.0 document or at the very
end.  I lost that debate and we were challenged to develop an inclusive
list.  The problem is now magnified.  	I was going to suggest that we
point to the OASIS web site that lists the membership of the TC as the
contributor source.  I went to the OASIS web site and determined that
the TC membership is presented there.  The problem is that we may have
contributors to the document who currently are not members of the TC or
a current member may withdraw from the group but still have contributed
to the document.  So let me make the following proposal, if we call the
document version 2.0, I suggest that the contributor list consist of
only those who contributed to the creation of the V 2.0 document.  We
started with the V1.0 document and the V 1.0 document contains its own
list of contributors. I will point out that we used the SOAP 1.1 spec in
the development of the TRP 1.0 spec but did not list those who had
contributed to the SOAP Spec--that of course would be ludicrous.  I know
that Dick Brooks and others made key contributions to the V 1.0
document.  I do not discount the importance of their work.  However,
this is V 2.0 and we are citing the fact that the specification is
building on the V 1.0 work so direct references to the V1.0 document do
not seem necessary.
	DISCLAIMER:  This message is not intended to start a firestorm.
I am only trying to simplify David's task and take a reasonable approach
to publishing the specification.

Ralph Berwanger 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Fischer [mailto:david@drummondgroup.com]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:59 PM
To: Colleen Evans; dick@tech-comm.com; Prasad Yendluri;
ian.c.jones@bt.com; Ralph Berwanger
Cc: ebXML Msg
Subject: RE: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1


OK, anyone who feels they should be included in the Author's section,
please
send me your name and contact info.  This is likely to be a long list.
Please
also include whether you were a v1.0 or v2.0 (new version number)
author, or
both.

Regards,

David.

-----Original Message-----
From: Colleen Evans [mailto:cevans@sonicsoftware.com]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:44 PM
To: dick@tech-comm.com; David Fischer; Prasad Yendluri;
ian.c.jones@bt.com; Ralph Berwanger
Subject: Re: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1


I agree with Dick.  I think anyone who has contributed substantial
submissions
to what is retained or added in 1.1 should be acknowledged in the
Authors
section, including David F. and Ralph (and what about Maryann Hondo for
the
Security section of 1.0?).  Maybe we should call it  'Contributing
Authors' to
accurately reflect that these individuals have contributed sections or
large
portions of the spec, while it was a group effort as a whole.

Would it help if just the contributing author's name, company, and
possibly an
email address were listed, rather than the entire address and contact
information?

Also, David, I would be happy to have my name removed as the team
editor, as I
only edited the first couple of drafts for the 1.1 spec.  You have done
all the
work.

Best regards - and Happy New Year everyone,
Colleen

Dick Brooks wrote:

> It is professional courtesy to properly identity contributing
> parties/authors when contributions by those authors are retained in a
> published work item. I concur with Prasad's comments.
>
> Dick Brooks
> Systrends, Inc
> 7855 South River Parkway, Suite 111
> Tempe, Arizona 85284
> Web: www.systrends.com <http://www.systrends.com>
> Phone:480.756.6777,Mobile:205-790-1542,eFax:240-352-0714
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Fischer [mailto:david@drummondgroup.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:57 PM
> To: Prasad Yendluri; ian.c.jones@bt.com; Colleen Evans
> Cc: Dick Brooks; Ralph Berwanger
> Subject: RE: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1
>
> Yes, I have written quite a bit of this spec too.  However, we cannot
put
> everyone on the Author's list.  Those who made contributions to the
v1.0
> spec
> are already listed in the Acknowledgments.  If adding Arvola's name is
going
> to
> start a stampede, then we should take his name off.  This spec was
such a
> group
> effort, and no one actually did any large writing (except maybe Ralph
for
> section 1.2) that I wonder if maybe we should not have an Author's
section.
>
> Regards,
>
> David.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Prasad Yendluri [mailto:pyendluri@webmethods.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:49 PM
> To: ian.c.jones@bt.com; david@drummondgroup.com; Colleen Evans
> Cc: Dick Brooks; Ralph Berwanger
> Subject: A Request on the Authors's list in ebMS 1.1
>
> Folks,
>
> I just noticed the list of author's has changed. I think that is
great.
> Arvola's contributions to 1.1 version are invaluable. However, I think
> it is only fair that all the authors are acknowledged. Dick Brooks and
> myself have written the transport bindings section of the 1.0
> specification. I was also the owner of the SyncReply module. All these
> are mostly intact in the 1.1 version. I am listing below some of the
> pertinent email messages and the corresponding attachments here with
for
> your reference.
>
> Thanks, Prasad
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: HTTP Bindings latest draft
> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:23:19 -0800
> From: Prasad Yendluri <pyendluri@webmethods.com>
> To: pyendluri@webmethods.com
> CC: christopher ferris <chris.ferris@east.sun.com>,Dick Brooks
> <dick@8760.com>, "ian.c.jones@bt.com" <ian.c.jones@bt.com>,David
Fischer
> <david@drummondgroup.com>,Rik Drummond <rvd2@worldnet.att.net>,"Dale
> Moberg (E-mail)" <Dale_Moberg@stercomm.com>,"Ralph Berwanger (E-mail)"
> <rberwanger@bTrade.com>,Doug Bunting <Doug@ariba.com>,"Burdett, David"
> <david.burdett@commerceone.com>, marcb@webmethods.com
> References: <3A92A939.F98A9F32@east.Sun.COM>
>
> Folks,
>
> Please find attached the latest version of HTTP bindings
specification.
> the updates are based on the issues list from Ian and also what Dick
> and I noted down or remember. The updates also try to address
> SOAP HTTP 500 issue. A line that states client cert based
authentication
> is permitted is added but, I suspect we need more than that. So, we
> would welcome some suggestions for text there.
>
> Dick and I are going back and forth on the SMTP bindings but that one
> should go out later today or tomorrow morning.
>
> Cheers and best regards.
>
> Prasad
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Latest DRAFT of SMTP bindings
> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:55:19 -0600
> From: Dick Brooks <dick@8760.com>
> Reply-To: dick@8760.com
> To: Ebxml <ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org>
>
> Here is what Prasad and I came up with for SMTP bindings, let us know
> what
> you think.
>
> I don't have a pdf creator so I'm providing the MS word version. Maybe
> one
> of those kind individuals (maw?)
> with a pdf converter will redistribute a pdf version of the doc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dick Brooks
> Group 8760
> 110 12th Street North
> Birmingham, AL 35203
> dick@8760.com
> 205-250-8053
> Fax: 205-250-8057
> http://www.8760.com/
>
> InsideAgent - Empowering e-commerce solutions






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